Literal or metaphorical?

Talk about being desperate! I've encountered a Christian by the name of 

Folarin folabi who randomly messaged me on my facebook inbox. He was on frenzy mode lol....

I'll summarise briefly our conversation  and also post screenshot. So this guy innocently asked me is Jesus a Muslim? So I replied back yes, that was it he fired up like a rocket and I serious he literally blew up lol bombarding my inbox...

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He said if Jesus called God his father then how is he a Muslim when Muslims don't call God father? He's response was genuine until i replied WHEN YOU SAY FATHER DO YOU MEAN LITERAL FATHER WHO HAS A WIFE MATES WITH HER AND HAS HIS SEMEN INSIDE HER, I.E PROCREATION OR METAPHORICAL FATHER ? I also asked him did Moses call God father ? This made it worse and he's frustration turned to insults..

Now since this inbox isn't going anything I said I'll make a post for everyone to see.. My answers which cornered him remains the same 

* Was Jesus the literal son of God? Or metaphorical son?

* we know what children of God means in the Old Testament so Moses referring to 

   yahweh as the father to isreal only means servants of God

* Yahweh called Moses a God was it literal or metaphorical?

* Jesus said to the Jews "ye are God" was that literal or metaphorical .

* Jesus said 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'

   Does father literally mean what is says?

* if God was literally Jesus's  father why did he not mention of his son anywhere in 

   the Old Testament 

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Sometime it makes you wonder why Christians out themselves in an awkward situation?

they have not learn from Jesus(pbuh) in bible.. Jews replied to Jesus(pbuh) and  called God their "Father"

“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.( John 8:41)"

Jesus(pbuh) replied:

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. (John 8:44)"

so we can learn if someone call God "father", that doesnt mean they are following true God, infact with what Jesus(pbuh) replied in "John 8:44", it makes it clear, the one they were calling "father" is not God but infact "Devil".

So calling God "Father" doesnt make a point..

The Naked Truth!!!!

The LORD told Isaiah son of Amoz, “Take off the burlap you have been wearing, and remove your sandals.” Isaiah did as he was told and walked around NAKED and barefoot.Then the LORD said, “My servant Isaiah has been walking around NAKED and barefoot.... (Isaiah 20:2-3)

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Ask yourself this Question was Isaiah a true prophet?. Would God degrade his prophet by making him walk Naked!. Did Isaiah really get a message from God? Isn't this something that Satan would do rather then God?. One cannot comprehend that a loving God would make his chosen Prophet who's carrying his words walk Naked and humiliate him like that.

If Christians can accept Isaiah as a prophet of God who walked stripped Naked and have no doubt about his authenticity of being a prophet why do they reject Ours? 

Now here's the problem suppose you saw a man walking Naked down your neighbourhood in front of you family and you went to admonish him and he said he he is a prophet of God was told by God to walk Naked will you  believe in him? Would you think he was a True prophet or a Mad man making a scene?

Note Christians believe That this very man prophesied about their messiah?  Ask yourself can you really believe a man who walks Naked and claims God told him!

Beating your wife (misconception)

we are still waiting to see how the Arabic text wadribuhunna is beating your wife. When the word Darb can have up to 16 meanings... Many muffasirun disagree it saying beat your wife...

The Quran study shows us how different muffasirun give different interpretations... One states Strike a deal with them, another states move out I.e walk out from them untill you calm down.

There's many interpretations... And the main point is we  have Sahih Hadith where Prophet Muhammed Pbuh Never Hit a women in his life nor a slave.

 ولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ شَيْئًا قَطُّ بِيَدِهِ وَلَا امْرَأَةً وَلَا خَادِمًا إِلَّا أَنْ يُجَاهِدَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ

“Aisha reported that Allah's Messenger, may Allah bless him, never beat anyone with his hand, neither a woman nor a servant, but only, in the case when he had been fighting in the cause of Allah …” (Sahih Muslim, Hadith 4296)

Tafsir Ibn Kathir, chapter 68:
Imam Ahmad recorded that `A’ishah said, “The Messenger of Allah never struck a servant of his with his hand, nor did he ever hit a woman. He never hit anything with his hand, except for when he was fighting Jihad in the cause of Allah. And he was never given the option between two things except that the most beloved of the two to him was the easiest of them, as long as it did not involve sin. If it did involve sin, then he stayed farther away from sin than any of the people. He would not avenge himself concerning anything that was done to him, except if the limits of Allah were transgressed. Then, in that case he would avenge for the sake of Allah.”

From the above Hadiths you can see Aisha (RA) has reported that Prophet Muhammed Pbuh never Beat a Women or Slave. You can't get more clear then that. The allegations made by anti Muslims that Prophet Muhammed Pbuh hit his wife Aisha (RA) is a lie since Aisha (RA) has told us as recorded from the above Hadith that Prophet Muhammed Pbuh Never hit a Women. Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (3895) and Ibn Majaah (1977), also quoted in Imam Ghazzali's Ihya Ulum-Id-Din, Marriage section:

"The best of you is the one who is best to his wife, and I am the best of you to my wives."

Dr shabir Ally wrote a paper that the text doesn't mean beat your wife... Infact the word beat is not even in the text.. Read Surah 20:17-18 when Moses Pbuh says he uses His Staff to BEAT THE LEAVES .. (Wa ahushu) BEAT

In fact Imam Habib Alli one the meaning of Darb could be love and Romance, I.e show her love. 

Note Prophet Muhammed Pbuh was against man beating his wife :

Narrated 'Abdullah bin Zam'a:
The Prophet said, "None of you should flog his wife as he flogs a slave and then have sexual intercourse with her in the last part of the day."

(Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 132)

Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (3895) and Ibn Majaah (1977), also quoted in Imam Ghazzali's Ihya Ulum-Id-Din, Marriage section:
"The best of you is the one who is best to his wife, and I am the best of you to my wives."

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:

Habibah daughter of Sahl was the wife of Thabit ibn Qays Shimmas He beat her and broke some of her part. So she came to the Prophet (ﷺ) after morning, and complained to him against her husband. The Prophet (ﷺ) called on Thabit ibn Qays and said (to him): Take a part of her property and SEPARATE YOURSELF FROM HER. He asked: Is that right, Messenger of Allah? He said: Yes. He said: I have given her two gardens of mine as a dower, and they are already in her possession. The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Take them and SEPARATE YOURSELF FROM HER.Sahih (Al-Albani): Sunan Abi Dawud, Book 12, Hadith 2220

was the Torah present during the time of Samuel?

(Previously in Israel, a person would say when he went to inquire of God, "Come on! Let's go to the seer!" because the person known as a prophet today was formerly called a seer.) (1 Samuel 9:9)

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the aboive saying seems to confirms that during the time of Samuel the Torah of Moses was not present with them. Notice how the above says " PREVIOUSLY IN ISRAEL" that is in the past, secondly if a man wanted to inquire of God he will go to a seer! Now known as a prophet?

What's fascinating about the above verse is that had Samuel known of the Torah of Moses then he would of seen the word Prophet is mentioned many times not seer! In fact the word seer is only found in the book of Samuel?

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Was Samuel not aware of the much controversial passage from Deuteronomy 18

I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him. (Deuteronomy 18:18 Masoretic Torah)

Here we read Yahweh saying he will raise a PROPHET (נָבִ֨יא) Nabi not SEER. That was one of many many other verses which speaks of Prophets and nowhere is seer mentioned that's according to the Masoretic.

In short 1 Samuel 9:9 the word “Prophet” was not used before Samuel the prophet, yet we find the word “prophet” all through the Torah, indicating we don’t have the “real” law of Moses. This tells us that the original Torah was not with Samuel !

Sorry to be harsh!

Feel real sorry for African Christians with all due respect either way they are lost... Take for instant this nasara by the name of prince David Marcus. Since he's new to Christianity he's using old Christian missionary busted tactics which have been destroyed by Muslims centuries ago...

He is bringing up the same old debunked claims how can Mary Pbuh be the sister of Aaron Pbuh? Even though he's posted the Hadith which explains the verse this nasara wants to mock.. And what makes me laugh is on his post he wrote " EVEN SISTER OR BROTHER IS INAPPROPRIATE AND NOT USED IN HEBREW"? Really Marcus lol lets use his own bible to destroy this pea brained street evangelist lol

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Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land. (Deuteronomy 23:7)

So the Edomites should not be despised because they are your brother what the whole tribe?

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And when Abram heard that his brother lot was taken captive, he armed his trained servants, born in his own house, three hundred and eighteen, and pursued them unto Dan. (Genesis 14:14)

And he brought back all the goods, and also brought again his brother Lot, and his goods, and the women also, and the people. (Genesis 14:12)

So Abram said to Lot, "Please let there be no strife between you and me, nor between my herdsmen and your herdsmen, for we are brothers.

(Genesis 13:8)

So Abrahams nephew Lot is also his brother?

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For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."

(Matthew 12:50)

So anyone who follows Jesus is his brother and sister or mother ?

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In the time of Herod king of Judea, there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly division of Abijah, and whose wife Elizabeth was a daughter of Aaron.

(Luke 1:5)

Was she really the daughter of Aaron ? Or descendent now imagine if we start playing those pathetic games how will u react!!   

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He will be a FRUITFUL MAN; his hand will be with everyone and everyone's hand will be with him, and he will live among all his brothers."

(Genesis 16:12 Samaritan text) 

How many brothers did Ishmael Pbuh have?

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"I have become a brother to jackals And a companion of ostriches.

(Job 30:29)

Was he really the brother of jackals ?

Something to ponder on

The word Judaism is not found in the Old Testament, nor is Judaism called a Religion in the Old Testament so what religion did Moses present to the children of Israel  I.e Nation to follow?

Now one may say just because the Old Testament doesn't use the word Judaism doesn't mean people wasn't aware of it, take for instance the New Testament we find Judaism in there. But notice Judaism is only spoken by Paul? Not even Jesus himself nor the gospels uttered such a word?. Secondly the questions authenticity depends on the Old Testament the entire codex has no mention of such a religion how comes ? 

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Here comes the blow 

What religion did the prophets of the Old Testament follow is not mentioned, nor does the Old Testament distinguish their belief status other then calling them righteous, upright, perfect, servants etc... Now what makes you say they did not follow Islam as their religion since being righteous, upright, prefect is following the right path o.e monotheism which is the religion of ISLAM...

Christians say there is no Islam in the bible nor is Judaism found in the Tanack shall we conclude Moses and his people did not have a religion? 

Do Christians live up to what Jesus said?

If a man uses physical force on  a woman I.e tries to rape her,  is her husband allowed to fight the man? or should he stand and pray without getting into type of violence. this is supposed to be the teaching of a true christian. Christians claim, Jesus never fought anyone rather he used love and said forgive those who persecute you  and pray for them.

listen, I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. (Luke 6:27-28)

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Just out of curiosity are Christians allowed to defend their family by beating or fighting the assailant, If so where did Jesus during his ministry prescribe self defence? you think you can then the above teaching is a lie and cannot be literal! 

We know what the Old Testament says about defending ones rights and protecting the family, but since Christians don't follow the laws or rules of the Old Testament or as they like to say the old covenant where does Jesus teach self defence  and family protection by physical action?

Ask yourself can you really watch your wife or daughter get raped in front of you, and all you can do is pray for the man!. when in reality you can do something about it. Can such practice be applied in this day and age. Which mad man would follow such a teaching.

It gets worse Jesus of the Bible goes as far as saying if one slaps you on one cheek turn the other?

If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. (Luke 6:29)

Seriously! How many Christians would turn their other cheek? Do you see the problem the gospels writers have created. They are pretending to created this fantasy dream land where every Christians is supposed to look like the innocent loving caring forgiving human! Whereas in reality it's a lie. No Christians in the planet practice such a commandment.. And the most ironic part is Jesus himself did not practice this. Remember when the official slapped him on the cheek did he turn the Other? NOOO rather he said why was he slapped :

When Jesus said this, one of the officials nearby slapped him in the face. “Is this the way you answer the high priest?” he demanded.

“If I said something wrong,” Jesus replied, “testify as to what is wrong. But if I spoke the truth, why did you strike me?” (John 18:22-23)

Who do you blame for such lies, Who's the route of the Problem? We can conclude the authors are  to be blamed who the route of the problem 

The New Testament was not inspired by the Holy Ghost !.

The bible clearly shows  its inconsistency It's full of blunders and errancy. Below I'll prove to you the so called gospels were not inspired by the Holy Spirit, it's a man made product for the ignorants. Let's expose the lies Christians make on how their bible is Inspired, a claim which only backfires on them!

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but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin." (Mark  3:29)

In short you say something bad, vulgar about the Holy Spirit then your In trouble right. Well what if the Holy Spirit  is lying himself what then?? Does the Holy Spirit contradict itself,  LETS FIND OUT?

And they all forsook him, and fled. (Mark 14:50)

In other words the followers of jesus all forsook him deserted him like cowards. So how do we know who witnessed Jesus's trial If all the disciples fled Ahhhhnh yes the Holy Spirit inspired the writers right???

WRONG!!!!  

Let's read how the Holy Spirit contradicts itself making it a lier Which only means that its cannot be trusted and only deceived the writers:

Did Jesus Speak at His Hearing Before Pilate?

Meanwhile Jesus stood before the governor, and the governor asked him, "Are you the king of the Jews?" "Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. When he was accused by the chief priests and the elders, he gave no answer. Then Pilate asked him, "Don’t you hear the testimony they are bringing against you?" But Jesus made no reply, not even to a single charge— to the great amazement of the governor. 

(Matthew 27:11)

In Matthew gospelJesus doesn’t answer to the charges made against him  But according to John he does?

"You are a king, then!" said Pilate. Jesus answered, "You are right in saying I am a king. In fact, for this reason I was born, and for this I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me."(John 18:37)

So no we have a major problem the verses above show us the Holy Spirit not only gave the writers false info he's also  deceiving thousands of Christians 

(No wonder Paul wasn't aware if he had the Holy Spirit )

In my judgment, she is happier if she stays as she is--and I think that I too have the Spirit of God. (1 Corinthians 7:40)

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Christians fall into a serious dilemma since they claim to be inspired by the very same Holy Ghost. This also shows what kind of a mess the bible is very unreliable.

What were the names of the disciples?

Matthew 10:2 & Mark 3:16	Luke 6:14
1 – Simon the Cananean	1 – Simon called Peter
2 – Simon called Peter	2 – Andrew his brother
3 – Andrew	3 – James the son of Zabadee
4 – James son of Zabadee	4 – John his brother
5 – John	5 – Philip
6 – Philip	6 – Bartholomew
7 – Bartholomew	7 – Matthew the tax collector
8 – Matthew	8 – Thomas
9 – Thomas	9 – James the son of Alphaues
10 – James son of Alphaues	10 – Simon the Zealot
11 – Labaous called Thadaues	11 – Judas the son of James
12 – Judas the Escariot	12 – Judas the Escario

It is stated in Matthew that Simon the Cananean was a disciple, whereas in Luke Simon the Zealot is mentioned. Also Matthew states Labaous called Thadaues to be a disciple, but Luke makes no mention of this name, rather Judas the son of James is stated instead.

Below the Talmud tells us there was only five disciples ?

Talmud Sanhedrin 43a  It is taught: Yeshu had five disciples - Matai, Nekai, Netzer, Buni, and Todah.

Another biblical dilemma, also have you notice Luke and Mark are not mentioned as a disciple? 

Did a Roman soldier shed Jesus’ blood?

Answer: John 19:34 claims that “one of the soldiers pierced his [Jesus’] side with a spear, and immediately there came out blood and water.” According to John 19:33, the Roman soldiers did not break Jesus’ legs because he was already dead. Chronologically, John 19:33 established the time of the inflicting of the wound in Jesus’ side (John 19:34) as subsequent to his death. John’s sequence of events is contradicted in some manuscript versions of Matthew 27:49 which state, “And another took a spear and pierced his side, and there came out water and blood.” This addition to the verse places the time of the inflicting of the wound as prior to Jesus’ death. However, it is an interpolation unsupported by the best of the ancient New Testament manuscripts. Blood oozing from a wound inflicted after death does not qualify as the shedding of blood required of an atonement offering. The piercing of Jesus’ body by a spear did not cause his death. Jesus did not die as a result of blood loss (Matthew 27:46-50, Mark 15:34-37, Luke 23:46, John 19:28-30). Jesus’ blood was not shed by a Roman soldier’s spear, thrust into his side.

Biblically, sacrificial death could only occur through the shedding of blood exclusively (Leviticus 17:11). Jesus, death by crucifixion can not be considered a sacrificial death. His death may have been caused by either asphyxiation or by going into “shock brought on by the traumatic physical events of his last hours, before and after he was nailed to the cross.”4 In his case, shock would not have been brought on solely by blood loss. The Gospels indicate Jesus’ blood was not shed to a degree that would make blood loss from the body the exclusive cause of death. Death solely by blood loss is the only biblical cause acceptable for an animal’s sacrificial death. 

The Law is considered by the New Testament to have been completely fulfilled by Jesus (Matthew 5:17-18). Complete fulfillment could only occur with the moment of Jesus’ death (John 19:30). That death is considered the culmination of the Law (Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:24-25; Ephesians 1:7; Hebrews 10:12, 14). Everything occurring to Jesus prior to that moment would have had to be under the Law. Yet, neither the physical condition (blemished), the age (over thirty years of age), the date (Nisan 15), the location (outside Jerusalem and its Temple), the executioners (Romans), the method (crucifixion), nor the cause of Jesus’ death (either asphyxiation or shock), is in accordance with that prescribed by the Scriptures for the sacrificing of a paschal lamb. Therefore, the Law was not fulfilled in Jesus. The evidence shows that he could not be equated with the paschal lamb.

This is sufficient to prove that Jesus did not shed his blood for the sins of mankind, thus Christians are in a dilemma 

How many Christians are there that can prove their love by giving up their life?

You all say Iraqis christians are being persecuted and many others from all over the world and you have the Noon arabic alphabet display on your whatsapp and facebook pic, Well prove your love and go save them giving up your life!! That's exactly what your jesus said :

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We know what real love is because Jesus gave up his life for us. So we also ought to give up our lives for our brothers and sisters.

(1 john 3:16)

Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends.

(John 15:13)

THOUGHT SO COWARDS!!!