Wednesday 27 February 2019

When Christians get cornered


“He who believes in me, as the scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart shall flow rivers of living water.'” (John 7:38)


An open challenge to Christians and Jews from any part of the world to show where such saying can be found in the modern day Tanack?

Thus, don’t you dare say where is the name of Prophet Muhammed Pbuh in the bible as found in the Quran.  You guys can't even show us a oneline sentence which was uttered by your Jesus who claimed it was mentioned in the very scripture’s you guys say was persevered and not corrupted, so where is it?

Second point

He said to them, "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms." Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: (Luke 24:44-46)


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Please show us from the "Law of Moses" where this fulfilment is mentioned and where it says, "Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day". Just provide us with the chapter and verse from the Torah. we'll get to the other scriptures later, for now let's stick to the "Law of Moses" and see how truthful your man-god really was.

please provide us with clear-cut; explicit verse, not any text where you have to decipher it. this shouldn't be difficult since Jesus "opened the minds" of his followers to understand the OT scriptures, the question is which ones?

Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. (Luke 24:45)

you Christians claim the "holy ghost" is guiding you and helps you understand scriptures, so then this would be a piece of cake for you to show us, right?


Third point

Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. (1 Corinthians 14:34)


Question: what law says women should remain silent in churches? In what book of the Pentateuch out of the 613 laws do we find this law? Do you see where we are getting at. Christians need to stop embarrassing themselves by asking us where the name of Prophet Muhammed Pbuh is found in the Bible when they can't even show us the saying uttered by Jesus within the scriptures.

Now coming to the verse from the Quran mentioning Prophet Muhammed Pbuh.

Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the Torah and the Gospel, who enjoins upon them what is right and forbids them what is wrong and makes lawful for them the good things and prohibits for them the evil and relieves them of their burden and the shackles which were upon them. So they who have believed in him, honored him, supported him and followed the light which was sent down with him - it is those who will be the successful. (Surah 7:157)

Notice how Christians try to add their own twist to the text. What they did to their scriptures, Christians are trying to do it on ours, but instead they fail. The verse says "Those who follow the apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures)"

"whom they find written"  the Arabic word used is (maktūban written). The verse does not say you will find his "name" in the bible, rather written about him, i.e. description. Muslims throughout time have given multiple descriptions of Prophet Muhammed Pbuh from the Bible, which Christians reject. Again, Christians were chasing something which wasn't even mentioned, this shows how deluded these Christians are.

So, before Christians jump on Muslims asking us to show the "name" of Prophet Muhammed Pbuh in the Bible, maybe they should first look for the saying of the Jesus which apparently was quoted from the Torah.

See if you guys can hack that!

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If you’re looking for the name of Prophet Muhammed Pbuh in your scripture then you taking the wrong route. The Quran does not say you will find his name (إسمه ismuhu), rather the Quran says in Surah 7:157 you will find his written description (مَكْتُوبًا maktuban), be consistent.





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Scripture where is this saying found?


And after that he gave to them judges about the space of four hundred and fifty years, until Samuel the prophet. (Acts 13:20)
Wrong according to  1 kings 6:1
In the four hundred and eightieth year after the Israelites came out of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv, the second month, he began to build the temple of the LORD. (1 kings 6:1 )

Bible commentators agreeing Paul made a mistake
He gave unto them judges - Men who were raised up in an extraordinary manner to administer the affairs of the nation, to defend it from enemies, etc. See Judges 2:16.
About the space of four hundred and fifty years - This is a most difficult passage, and has exercised all the ingenuity of chronologists. The ancient versions agree with the present Greek text. The difficulty has been to reconcile it with what is said in 1 Kings 6:1, "And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel ...he began to build the house of the Lord." Now if to the 40 years that the children of Israel were in the wilderness there be added the 450 said in Acts to have been passed under the administration of the judges, and about 17 years of the time of Joshua, 40 years for Samuel and the reign of Saul together, and 40 years for the reign of David, and three years of Solomon before he began to build the temple, the sum will be 590 years, a period greater by 110 years than that mentioned in 1 Kings 6:1. Various ways have been proposed to meet the difficulty.

(20) After that he gave unto them judges . . .—The statement in the text, assigning 450 years to the period of the judges, and apparently reckoning that period from the distribution of the conquered territory, is at variance with that in 1Kings 6:1, which gives 480 years as the period intervening between the Exodus and the building of the temple. The better MSS., however, give a different reading—“He gave their land to them as an inheritance, about 450 years, and after these things he gave unto them judges,” the 450 years in this case being referred to the interval between the choice of “our fathers,” which may be reckoned from the birth of Isaac (B.C. 1897 according to the received chronology) to the distribution of the conquered country in B.C. 1444. So far as any great discrepancy is concerned, this is a sufficient explanation, but what has been said before as to the general tendency in a discourse of this kind to rest in round numbers, has also to be remembered. (See Note on Acts 7:6.) Josephus (Ant. viii. 3, § 1) gives 592 years from the Exodus to the building of Solomon’s Temple. Of this period sixty-five years were occupied by the wanderings in the wilderness and the conquest under Joshua, eighty-four by the reigns of Saul and David and the first four years of Solomon, leaving 443 years for the period of the Judges. This agrees, it will be seen, sufficiently with the Received text in this passage, but leaves the discrepancy with 1Kings 6:1 unexplained. There would of course, be nothing strange in St. Paul’s following the same traditional chronology as Josephus, even where it differed from that of the present Hebrew text of the Old Testament.




Then the people asked for a king, and he gave them Saul son of Kish, of the tribe of Benjamin, who ruled forty years (Acts 13:21)

Gross error, according to the Hebrew Bible Tanack, 1 Samuel 13:1 Saul rules for two years. The NIV says 42 years. Kjv also agrees with the Hebrew Bible saying 2 years.



And when He had removed him, He raised up for them David as king, to whom also He gave testimony and said, ‘I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after My own heart, who will do all My will.’ (Acts 13:22)


Where is this saying found in the Tanack, "I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after My own heart, who will do all My will."

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Guys where is this  found in the Old Testament?


Or haven't you read in the Law that the priests on Sabbath duty in the temple desecrate the Sabbath and yet are innocent? (Matthew 12:5)

Argument for the Jews claiming that Ezra is the son of God from Jewish sources.

 Bismillah al Rahman al Raheem, in the name of Allah the most merciful the most gracious. All credits for this article go to Dr. Sami Amer...