But even if we or an
angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you,
let them be under God’s curse! (Galatian 1:8)
This saying by Paul
is misinterpreted by deceptive Christians only to conceal the truth. When Muslims
ask Christians “why do you reject the Quran
as the Word of God”, in response they turn to Galatians 1:8.
Here’s the problem with
there answer. Firstly, they ignore what was the reason behind his letter.
Galatians is a letter written by the apostle
Paul (1:1) to “the churches in Galatia” (1:2).
The Galatian people were Gauls (also known as
Celts) who had emigrated from Western Europe to Asia Minor (modern day Turkey)
in the 3rd century BC. Galatia is mentioned twice in Acts as “Galatia and
Phyrgia” (Acts 16:6; 18:23).
It is clear from the letter that these were
churches that Paul had established: Paul speaks of “the gospel…we preached to
you” (1:8), and in 4:12-16 Paul describes the circumstances in which he came to
preach the gospel to them.
Paul has evidently heard some disturbing
reports that the Galatian churches were being misled by false teaching, with
this Paul had to make his stand and inform the church to stand by his “gospel”
Notice how Paul was emphasising “the gospel
we preach”. Paul was concerned “other gospels”
were making an impact on the people. The question is what gospel were they preaching
which made Paul so concerned?
We understand by Paul’s own admission he was
referring to the people of Galatian exclusively not to accept any other gospels
other than his. Paul was using various persuasive ways to convince he was
speaking the truth. Thus, he used the example of an angel from heaven to emphasis
how serious the matter was. This example in no way was carries any validity that
angels from heaven cannot preach the gospel to messengers. Either Paul was worried
his deceptive schemes would be exposed and he would be under fire by the people
or he was complete drunk when making such an absurd claim.
Jesus himself never made such a claim
regarding angels from heaven. but for the sake of argument let’s put the gospels
to the test and see if they fit with Paul gospel and angel from heaven.
who
named him Jesus, Joseph or Mary?
According to the Book of Matthew, Joseph
was commanded by the Angel to keep his name Jesus.
But after he had considered this, an angel
of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, "Joseph son of David, do
not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her
is from the Holy Spirit.
And she will have a son, AND YOU (Joseph)
ARE TO NAME HIM JESUS... (Matthew 1:20-21)
The above verse is contradicted by Luke in
his Book, Mary was commanded by the Angel Gabriel to keep his name Jesus.
"Don't be afraid, Mary," the
angel told her, "for you have found favor with God!
Listen! You will become pregnant and give
birth to a son, AND YOU (Mary) ARE TO NAME HIM JESUS. (Luke 1:30-31)
What a
contradiction, neither of the writers knew who the angel commanded to name him
Jesus. seems like the Holy Ghost (angel from heaven) gave them mix messages. Now
using Pauls criteria which gospel is correct?
We have
tons of mix messages which contradict each so called gospel side by side, the
question is which gospel is correct if the revelation was inspired by the holy
ghost?
Luke
says Mary and Joseph both went from Nazareth to Bethlehem for a census ordered
by Caesar Augustus, which would have during 6AD when Quirinius was
the governor of Syria and soon after Mary gave birth and had Jesus. (Luke 2)
Matthew
on the other hand says Jesus, Joseph and Mary all went to Egypt, escaping King
Herod who ordered all baby boys to be killed, soon after King Herod died, they
went back to Nazareth. this would have taken during 4BC? There is no mention of
a census or Mary and Joseph travelling to Nazareth (Matthew 2)
This is
a problem especially when using Pauls criteria “angel from heaven preaching” Quirinius was the governor of Syria
starting from the year 6 common era. King Herod died in the year 4BCE. If Jesus
was born under the rein of King Herod, then the census could not have happened
under Quirinius, there’s a 10-year gap.
Which gospel is correct since they both
were inspired by the holy ghost (angel from heaven)
Paul himself was unreliable and known
liar. Paul confessed he lied to his audience to convert them.
concerning whom the accusers,
having stood up, were bringing no charge of the crimes of which I was expecting. Instead, they had some
points of dispute with him about their own religion and about a dead man named
Jesus who Paul claimed was alive. (Acts 25:18-19)
Why should be believe in Paul
when he confessed, he was lying to the people he was preaching?
If my lie is spreading the
truth of God why am I judged a sinner (Romans 3:7)
Here Paul without hesitation is
admitting he was a blatant liar who deceived people into believing falsehood.
From this we can conclude the argument brought before Fetus and the Jewish
leaders in Acts 25 shows Paul was the one who came up with the resurrection
idea.
"Instead, they had some
points of dispute with him about their own religion and about a dead man named
Jesus who Paul claimed was alive" (verse 19)
Or else why would they bring
this up if it was a messianic prophecy which the Jewish leaders would have
known? What's worse Paul standing on trial once again lied in front of his
audience.
"Then Paul made his
defense: “I have done nothing wrong against the Jewish law or against the
temple or against Caesar.” that’s strange for a man who openly confessed he was
lying to spread the truth? (verse 8)
"If my lie is spreading
the truth of God why am I judged a sinner " (Romans 3:7)
Paul goes a step further by
elaborating how deceptive he would go just to prove his point as found in
Philippians
But what does it matter? The
important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true,
Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice. Yes, and I will continue to
rejoice, (Philippians 1:18)
Imagine a man who openly
confess and elaborates his evil dirty motives into deceiving people to believe
his lies. Note the gospel accounts were written decades after Paul
wrote his letters. The gospels writers themselves used Paul's theology that
Jesus was crucified and resurrected. Paul was a big influence on naive people.
Bear In mind Paul was also a ruthless man who persecuted innocent 1st century
Christians.
Paul also speaks about gospels
circulating during his time, that is before the 4 canonical gospels were
written.
I am astonished that you are so
quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to
a different gospel— (Galatians 1:6)
Christians claim there was only
one gospel during the 1st century and all apocrypha gospels were written much
later, centuries after them. Can Christians show us these gospels Paul was
referring to and different? What's fascinating about this is, these gospels
which Paul is referring to were written and preached decades before Mark,
Matthew, Luke and John.
These gospels which are lost
now were circulating before Pauls conversion. Imagine Paul was killing
Christians for preaching Jesus was not crucified. Take for example
Here's a quote from The
Apocalypse of Peter :
The Savior said to me, "He
whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus. But this
one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is his fleshly part, which
is the substitute being put to shame, the one who came into being in his
likeness. But look at him and me."
And I saw someone about to
approach us resembling him, even him who was laughing on the tree. (The
Apocalypse of Peter 81)
Here's a quote from the Acts of
John :
And my Lord standing in the
midst of the cave and enlightening it, said: John, unto the multitude below in
Jerusalem I am being crucified and pierced with lances and reeds, and gall and
vinegar is given me to drink. But unto thee I speak and what I speak hear thou.
I put it into thy mind to come up into this mountain, that thou mightest hear
those things which it behoveth a disciple to learn from his teacher and a man
from his God… (Jesus Continues): But this is not the cross of wood which thou
wilt see when thou goest down hence: neither am I he that is on the cross, whom
now thou seest not, Thou hearest that I suffered, yet did I not suffer; that I
suffered not, yet did I suffer; that I was pierced, yet I was not smitten;
hanged, and I was not hanged; that blood flowed from me, and it flowed not;
and, in a word, what they say of me, that befell me not, but what they say not,
that did I suffer. (the Acts of John 97)
Now Christian can argue with
the dating system, which wouldn't change the fact these gospels were in
circulation. Whether they argument it's from the 2nd century or not, the fact
here is the 4 canonical are also from the 3rd - 4th onward as we have no early
manuscripts dating back to the 1st or 2nd century. The bottom line is,
Christians during Paul's time were disputing the crucifixion and resurrection
of Jesus, which Paul lied to make it true. No matter how hard Paul
tried he got caught red handed and his lies exposed!
Paul himself makes no mention of a conversion on the road to
Damascus, whereas Acts of the Apostles has not one, but three accounts:
·
At Acts
9:3-8, Paul was blinded by a light
and fell down, then heard Jesus, who told Paul that he would be told what to do
when he was in the city. His men did not see the light, but heard the voice.
They remained standing.
·
At Acts
22:6-11, Paul told the people he was
blinded by a light and fell down, then heard Jesus, who again told Paul that he
would be told what to do when he was in Damascus. This time, his men saw the
light but, unlike Paul, were not blinded, and did not hear the voice.
·
At Acts
26.13-19, Paul told Agrippa that he
saw a brilliant light and heard Jesus, who gave him his mission, but did not
command him to go to Damascus. He fell down, but there is no mention of
blindness, nor is there any mention of the men seeing or hearing anything, although
for some reason they also fell down. He told those at Damascus and Jerusalem
about his conversion experience.
Was Acts 9:3-8 the true account of this event, and if so was
Paul confused in his two separate accounts? How would we know?
Even conservative theologians acknowledge that Luke was not
with Paul on the road to Damascus so, if Luke was the author of Acts,
he must have received all three versions from Paul, or at least one version
that he subsequently amended for his own reasons and placed in three different
contexts.
Rex Wyler says,in The Jesus
Sayings, page 43, that
historians consider Acts, written in the 90s, an anonymous work that freely
mixes history with legend. Authorship some decades after the death of Paul
means that this anonymous author would not have received the story from Paul
himself. So Paul's conversion on the road to Damascus was either a tradition of
unknown provenance or entirely a literary creation written by 'Luke'.
We conclude Paul’s saying “But even if we or an angel from
heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them
be under God's curse!” was complete nonsense and deceptive as the very
gospels Christians read disagree with each other, proving Paul’s gospel was
different to what the current gospels are. Here’s another example on Paul
quoting from a different gospel.
In everything I did, I showed
you that by this kind of hard work we must help the weak, remembering the words
the Lord Jesus himself said: 'It is more blessed to give than to receive.'
" (Acts 20:35)
Also read:
In the same way, the Lord has
commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the
gospel. (1 Corinthians 9:14)
As well as:
2 Corinthians 12:8-9 — Paul
quotes Jesus, but it doesn’t sound like Jesus, and the quote isn’t elsewhere.
(No such statement of Jesus is
found elsewhere in the Bible.) I've done a extensive check, cross references and
found nothing? Which tells us the current writers did not preach what Paul
preached
also It's not in the earliest papyrus (p46), likely cause it's damage from a hole in the paper.
below we read how the saying of Paul was taken out of context, from the book
The Text of Galatians and Its History
By Stephen C. Carlson
Galatians
Although
Galatians is the fourth of Paul's epistles in our Bibles, it is the first in
Marcion's Apostolicon. As this is also the first epistle on which both
Tertullian and Epiphanius comment, we might expect that their comments would be
the most detailed, and perhaps least affected by 'fatigue.' However, as will be
seen, while Tertullian appears to see a number of large omissions in Marcion's version of Galatians (McGal), Epiphanius
only reports a one small difference.
Galatians 1:1-9
Paul, an
apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father,
who raised him from the dead;) [1:1]
And all the
brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia: [1:2]
Grace be to you
and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, [1:3]
Who gave
himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world,
according to the will of God and our Father: [1:4]
To whom be
glory for ever and ever. Amen. [1:5]
I marvel that
ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto
another gospel: [1:6]
Which is not
another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of
Christ. [1:7]
But though we,
or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we
have preached unto you, let him be accursed. [1:8]
As we said
before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than
that ye have received, let him be accursed. [1:9]
Several
people (e.g. Harnack) have suggested that Marcion omitted "and God the Father" from v. 1:1, apparently based on testimony from
Jerome, although this has been disputed. As is discussed under the heading 'Common Items' in Marcion's Apostolicon: The Pauline Epistles, when discussing First Corinthians Tertullian makes it clear that he saw at least v. 1:3 at the
beginning of Marcion's version of Galatians (McGal), and so perhaps we would
have expected him to comment on v. 1:1 if he saw any difference here. However,
neither he nor Epiphanius do so, and (apart from the later comments when
discussing 1 Cor) Tertullian's first comments on the text of Galatians
itself are references to vv. 1:6-8. He comments on this being "the most
decisive [epistle] against Judaism," and then quotes v. 1:6-7a:
Since also he makes mention of no other god ... it is
clear enough in what sense he writes, "I marvel that you are so soon removed
from Him who has called you to His grace to another gospel." ... When he adds, too, the words, "which is not
another," he
confirms the fact that the gospel which he maintains is the Creator's.
Tertullian quotes
from Isa 40:9, 42:6, 52:9 and Mt 12:21, refers to v. 1:7 again, and then quotes
most of v. 1:8, while omitting "unto
you than that which we have preached unto you:"
But perhaps, to avoid this difficulty, you will say
that he therefore added just afterwards, "Though
an angel from heaven preach any other gospel, let him be accursed," because
he was aware that the Creator was going to introduce a gospel!
This wording may
suggest that Tertullian saw a slightly shorter version of v. 1:8, but
Epiphanius, in his 'Elenchus 16 and 24' on 1 Cor 15:1, quotes this verse in
full:
“Though we, or an angel, preach
any other Gospel unto you than that which ye have received, let him be
accursed.”
The Marcionite, in the dialogue ascribed to Origen, in citing
the 7th verse of this chapter, inserts the words, "according to my gospel," after the word "another;"and in the end of the
verse, after the word "pervert," instead
of "the gospel of Christ," he
read, ‘to a gospel different from that of
Christ.’ These variations might be inserted from the Apostolicon of
Marcion, as Dr. Mill thinks; or perhaps they might not be intended as an exact
quotation, but only as an argument, consisting partly of the words of the
apostle in this place, and partly of what the Marcionite had before quoted,
which seems to be from Romans ii.16, together with his own explanation or
comment.
While it is not
certain what McGal contained here, there is no suggestion from either
Tertullian or Epiphanius that it was different from what they saw in their
copies of Galatians.
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Do not add or
subtract from the word of God (Deuteronomy 4:2)
You will be blessed
if you obey the commands of the LORD your God that I am giving you today.
,But you will be
cursed if you reject the commands of the LORD your God and turn away from him
and worship gods you have not known before. (Deuteronomy 11:27-28)
You must be careful
to do everything I am commanding you. Do not add to it or subtract from it!
(Deuteronomy 12:32)
Notice how Yahweh is
concluding, "nothing should be added or subtracted from his command"
all command of God must be followed. If however anyone chooses to reject his
command then they are CURSED by God himself. Paul in Galatians declares anyone
including an angel preaching a different gospel than what he did show be under
God's curse.
Here's the irony. In
one hand we have God declaring his words and on the other hand Paul. Out of the
two on whom should be given more attention, God or Paul? Naturally God. Paul is a nobody when it comes to the words
of God.
Here's where it gets
interesting. Both Jesus and Paul added and subtracted from the words of God
thus, falling under the curse of God.
Jesus made many
abrogation from divorce to anger to lust etc.. Paul also added his own words by
declaring all food is lawful and one does not have to circumcise and above all
the law of the Torah is outdated and invalid.
Paul has the
audacity to say, God curse is upon those who preach a different gospel, yet the
scum was under Gods curse himself by adding how own words taking away the Jews
from the Torah.
Amazing the two common verses Christians use on Muslims fail!
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:8)
Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denies the Father and the Son. (1 John 2:22)
1) Not to accept any other gospel even if an angel from heaven
This writing is not from the time of Paul.The earliest manuscript dates back to the 3rd century P46 . We have nothing from the 1st, 2nd century thus, there no direct evidence that Paul wrote it
2) Anyone who rejects Jesus as Christ and the son is the antichrist
This writing is not from the time of John.The earliest manuscript dates back to the 4th century GA 01, א - Codex Sinaiticus. We have nothing from the 1st, 2nd or 3rd century. there is no direct evidence that John wrote it
How embarrassing both verses used against Muslims don’t even go back to the "alleged authors"
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According to Paul the Laws of Old Testament are man made
You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you.(Leviticus 11:8)
You must not eat any fat or any blood.' (Leviticus 3:17)
"Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. (Colossians 2:21-22)
Notice how Paul says commandments such as the ones found in Leviticus the law of God is man made and shouldn't be followed
I robbed other churches by receiving support from them so as to serve you. (2 Corinthians 11:8)
