Saturday, 12 November 2016

He Sacrificed for your sins (Busted)

How can Jesus have sacrificed himself when God raised him back to life again? Let's examine this claim, Sacrificing something or someone only happens when you want something back in return. If God sacrificed himself what did he get in return when he already owns EVERYTHING? What could God possibly gain from sacrificing himself when he owns everything and do what he likes whenever he wants, What good will that do to him?

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What does sacrifice mean?

sacrifice
ˈsakrɪfʌɪs/
noun
  1. 1
    an act of slaughtering an animal or person or surrendering a possession as an offering to a deity.
    "they offer sacrifices to the spirits"
    synonyms:ritual slaughter, hecatomb, immolation, offeringoblation

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    So God sacrificed himself to himself in order to forgive mankind from a sin which he created himself? And how can you say God sacrificed himself or his son whichever way you see it, when he bought himself or his son back to life again, which means there was no sacrifice in the first place and nothing was lost. It's like giving away your old car knowing you have a new one.

    So Jesus could not have Sacrificed himself when he was bought back to life. In reality Nothing was lost, so where's the sacrifice

    What are the Principles of fasting in Christianity ?

    Christians often say like you Muslims we also fast? Tell them that's good to know, may I ask what are the principles of your fasting? For example :


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    when do you start to fast and when do you cease to fast?  

    How many days are you to fast and what actions are taken whilst you fast? 

    What prayers are performed when you fast and end fast?

    who decides what year month or day your fast to start and end? What are the conditions and actions of your fast? 

    Where did Jesus instruct you the accuracy of fasting and its methods? 

    How do you know what precautions to take whilst fasting? What if you accidentally  eat or drank does this nullify your fast? 

    Where are the instructions rules and regulations for fasting found in the gospels ?

     How did Jesus fast and what did he recommend for you Christians since you call yourself his devout followers? 

    When did Jesus break his fast and what did he break his fast with? 

    How do you know your fasting is accepted does it follows the criteria of the fasting which Jesus himself did?

    Can you show us from the gospels any of the above criteria of fasting or is it that you made them up yourself? 

    How did the early Christians fast do you have any documented records?

    What types of food did Jesus and his followers  eat after fasting? 

    What is the time line of fasting ?

    Can a women fast when she's on her menses ?

    What is permissible and impermissible whilst fasting?

    Please enlighten us of your fasting procedures if you know yourself 

    What a Mess!!!!



    (The Nephilim (Giants) lived on earth prior to the Flood.)


    The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown (Genesis 6:4)


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    (Only Noah and his family, and the animals on the Ark, survived the Flood.)

    Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; people and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark. (Genesis 7:23)

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    (Long after the Flood, the Nephilim (Giants still lived.)


    We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them." (Numbers 13:33)



    let's sum up this mess, Genesis 6:4 tells us Nephilim (Giants) lived before the flood of Noah, 

    Genesis 7:22 tells us the entire earth was flooded and not a single HUMAN OR ANIMAL LIVED EXCEPT NOAH AND THOSE IN THE ARK!

    Numbers 13.33 tells us they saw Nephilim Giants during the time of Moses, which were supposed have been annihilated through the flood Genesis 7:23?

    The question is how do you  rectify this MESS! If all the people were drowned how did Nephilim (Giants) survive ? Shall we conclude Yahweh gave wrong info to the authors?

    What a SHAME!!

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    Thus they spread calumnies among the Israelites about the land they had scouted, saying, “The country that we traversed and scouted is one that devours its settlers. All the people that we saw in it are men of great size; we saw the Nephilim there—the Anakites are part of the Nephilim—and we looked like grasshoppers to ourselves, and so we must have looked to them.” (Numbers 13:32-33 )

    How big were the Nephilim? If the spies thought of themselves as grasshoppers compare to the size of Nephilim, how big were their opponents?  Rashi the renowned commentator tells us :
    ק — They were thus called because it seemed as if the sun was draped around their necks (מַעֲנִיקִים) because of their height (Sotah 34b).
    בני ענק, according to one opinion cited by Rashi, the necks of these people reached almost to the sun.


    ושם ראינו את הנפילים, “and there we have seen the Nephilim; some commentators believe that these people were very tall people who had fallen out of the sky, as in Job 14,18 הר נופל יבול, “mountains collapse (Chizkuni, Numbers 13:33:1)


    Rabbi said: The angels who fell2 These “fallen angels” were called Nephilim . “Giants” is the usual rendering of this term. On the angels, cf. supra, pp. 46, 99; and infra, pp. 193 f. (Pirkei DeRabbi Eliezer 22:4)

    What's even more interesting, according to Isaiah God sits on top of the circle earth and people are like grasshoppers?
    He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in. (Isaiah 40:22)
    So we can conclude from the Bible and Rabbinic commentary, that the spies saw giants who were so big they could reach the sun, which makes them taller than the tower of Babylon . Yahweh on the other hand sits on top of the circle earth and see people as grasshoppers how fascinating.

    Bible same as before?


    Our Christian friends keep bragging that the Quran Confirmed the Bible which Christians Currently have in possession so the bible could not have been Altered, Tampered, Corrupted.

    They would normally Misquote many verses from the Quran such as Surah 3:3, surah 5:48 etc as their evidence that the Bible is still prestige.

    Let's put their claims to the Test by citing a couple of Passages from the Quran and see if the current bible the has really is in its original form?

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    Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilled His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph. (Surah 9:111)


    Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward. (Surah 48:29)

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    Seems like the above Passages have already destroyed each and every claim made by Christians about the authenticity of the Bible.

    If Christians still believe the Bible which existed during the time of Prophet Muhammed Pbuh is the Same as now, then can they can show us where in the Torah and Injeel such statements are  found as mentioned in Surah 9:111 & Surah 48:29.

    You have a life time to show us those statements in your bible which according to you guys is unaltered, uncorrupted.

    This Quran could not have been produced by anyone other than God. In fact, it is a confirmation of what preceded it, and an elaboration of the Book. There is no doubt about it—it is from the Lord of the Universe. [Surah 10:37]


    The concept of original sin refuted from the scrolls of Moses and Abraham Pbuh.


    Or was he not informed of what is in the Scrolls of Moses? And of Abraham, who fulfilled? That no soul bears the burdens of another soul. And that the human being attains only what he strives for. (Surah 53:36-39)

     

    Notice the ayat reads “That no soul bears the burdens of another soul” found in the scrolls of Moses and Abraham. A typical claim Christians make is, the Quran confirms the Torah they currently have. It will be interesting to see how they confirm the saying “That no soul bears the burdens of another soul” form their “Torah”. What’s amazing about this ayat is, the concept of original sin is refuted, a concept which was not preached during the time of Abraham or Moses.

     

    “Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin." (Deuteronomy 24:16)

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