Tuesday 29 November 2016

Epic failure of a so called Christian apologist

Korede will never learn, its time you retire


Korede a nigerian Christian apologist made such a pathetic post on Facebook, I couldn't stop laughing lol. He wrote he will show where Jesus said he is God, I was like WHAT BIBLE IS KOREDE READING!!!! Academic scholars agree there is not such a verse to be found in the entire NT, so where did Korede pull out such a verse.. However after reading koredes joke evidence I thought Korede your times up now u need to retire lol


This is what he wrote read below  :


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READ IT YOURSELF

20 And when he saw their faith, he said unto him, Man, thy sins are forgiven thee.

21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?

22 But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, he answering said unto them, What reason ye in your hearts?

23 Whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Rise up and walk?

24 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power upon earth to forgive sins, (he said unto the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy couch, and go into thine house.

[Luke 5:20 - 24]

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21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?

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Let's analyse the passage Korede posted, so here we have a situation where Jesus is healing anyone that came to him along side a paralysed man, first reverse back to verse 17 and read 

17 One day Jesus was teaching, and Pharisees and teachers of the law were sitting there. They had come from every village of Galilee and from Judea and Jerusalem. And the power of the Lord was with Jesus to heal the sick. 

THE POWER OF THE LORD WAS WITH JESUS? But Korede said Jesus was god?
Let's carry on the scribes and Pharisees said only God can forgive sins..? Did Jesus  call himself  God, Or did the scribes and Pharisees call him God? NEITHER.
They only said amongst themselves only God forgives sins which he does  not that they considered Jesus to be God nor did Jesus consider himself to be God

Just because the scribes Pharisees / Jews said that doesn't make him God, if that's the case what about all the other allegations and names they called Jesus 



The Jews answered him, "Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?" (John 8:48)


"You are demon-possessed," the crowd answered. "Who is trying to kill you?"
  (John 7:20)


And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He has Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casts he out devils. (Mark 3:22)



Many of them said, "He is demon-possessed and raving mad. Why listen to him?"
(John 10:20)



Some of the Pharisees said, "This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath." But others asked, "How can a sinner perform such signs?" So they were divided. (John 9:16)

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Even his family said he is insane


When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, "He is out of his mind." (Mark 3:21)



Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. (Matthew 4:8)

The devil took Jesus up the a very high mountain?? How can the devil take Jesus up unless he possessed or hypnotised him??

What about Jesus calling the Jews god?

Jesus answered them, "Has it not been written in your Law, 'I SAID, YOU ARE GODS '?
(John 10:34)

What's even more absurd is that Korede intentionally deceived his people, he's well aware even the disciples were able to forgive sins :


Disciples were also able to forgive sins 


And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.” (John 20:22:23)



Shall we conclude that Jesus was also possessed and a sinner just because the Jews said so? If agree with Korede then yes !




Yahweh Puts TERROR and FEAR upon moses so his enemy tremble!!



And from Bamoth [in] the valley that [is] in the country of Moab, to the top of Pisgah, which looketh toward Jeshimon. And the LORD said to Moses: Arise and jorney and pass the stream of Arnon. And see that I give in your hand Sihon king of Heshbon of Amorites. And begin to possess his land and anger him in war. As today I will begin to put TERROR AND FEAR of you upon the nation under all heavens. And when they will hear you, they shall fear and be an anguish from you.
(Numbers 21:20 Samaritan Torah)


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Prayer to yahweh!!


Strike them with TERROR, LORD; let the nations know they are only mortal.
(Psalms 9:20 Masoretic tanak)

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Yahweh sending terror !!

"I will send my TERROR ahead of you and throw into confusion every nation you encounter. I will make all your enemies turn their backs and run.
(Exodus 23:27 Masoretic Torah )


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Punishment for those who disobey!!


I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you TERROR, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. (Leviticus 26:16 Masoretic Torah )

Take your pick



Abu Hurayra stated, "The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, 'The most perfect of believers in belief is the best of them in character. The best of you are those who are the best to their women.'"
 Riyad as Saliheen, chapter 34, ‘treating women well’, nr  278. [at-Tirmidhi]
   

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them.  (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"


Abu Hurayra reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "A believing man should not hate a believing woman. If he dislikes something in her character, he should be pleased with some other ­ or another­ trait of hers." [Muslim]
(Riyad as Saliheen, chapter 34, ‘treating women well’, nr. 275)

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Torah/ Talmud

If a man marries a woman who becomes displeasing to him because he finds something indecent about her, and he writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, 2 and if after she leaves his house she becomes the wife of another man, 3 and her second husband dislikes her and writes her a certificate of divorce, gives it to her and sends her from his house, or if he dies, 4 then her first husband, who divorced her, is not allowed to marry her again after she has been defiled. That would be detestable in the eyes of the Lord. Do not bring sin upon the land the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance.
(Deuteronomy 24:1-4)


commentary on the Rambam’s Mishneh Torah. a husband may beat a sinning wife (Hilkhos Ishus 21:10),


(Responsa Binyamin Ze’ev, no. 88). The first three of the five pages of the responsum reflect a very negative attitude toward wife beating. However, on the fourth page, R. Binyamin Ze’ev adds a qualification — that a husband may beat his wife to prevent her from sinning, which includes cursing him or his parents. In other words, R. Binyamin Ze’ev adopts the first view.

If the husband’s property is damaged, compensation is paid to him. He is not only the owner of his wife, he is also the owner of her pregnancy (Ex. 21:22). All of this may have contributed to an attitude that there was nothing wrong with physically abusing women. Although the word ??? (strike, blow, hit, beat) appears in the Bible, it is not associated with wifebeating until the Talmud.


If a husband declares, 'I will neither feed nor provide for my wife', he is compelled to grant her a divorce...If bad breath is a justification for such compulsion [as stated in the above mishnah] her very life is far more so.
(Talmud y.Gitt. 9:9)

A man may divorce his wife if she has merely spoiled a dish for him,
He may also divorce her even if he simply finds another woman more beautiful than she" (Gittin 90a-b).

It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.
Pesahim 111a.


The Talmud has recorded several specific actions by wives which obliged their husbands to divorce them: "If she ate in the street, if she drank greedily in the street, if she suckled in the street, in every case Rabbi Meir says that she must leave her husband" (Git. 89a). 

The Talmud has also made it mandatory to divorce a barren wife (who bore no children in a period of ten years): "Our Rabbis taught: If a man took a wife and lived with her for ten years and she bore no child, he shall divorce her" (Yeb. 64a).

One sage, Rabbi Eliezer, went further to forbid teaching Torah to daughters by comparing it to the teaching of “tiflut” (Sotah 21b).

Paul and his lies!

Another unreliable passage by lying paul 500 witnesses?? 


After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.
1 Corinthians 15:6

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So the question is who were these 500 people, that the entire 4 gospels were unaware off? None of the 4 gospels even after contradicting each other throughout mention Jesus meeting a mass of people!!

Bear in mind Paul was writing about twenty-five years after the crucifixion contends, without giving a geographic location, 

How come we have no testimony from any of these five hundred people? How come none of these five hundred people ever wrote anything regarding their experiences when they witnessed the resurrection of Jesus?


Challenge to Christians, can you if not all just provide with the names of 50 witnesses out of the 500 if you dare lol... 






can a Christian be a gay bible says yes !

It's ok according to Jesus of the bible 



Mark 7:14-16 shows that Jesus approves of homosexual acts. The critical phrase reads: "There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him..." This suggests that Jesus gave great emphasis to this teaching, directing it to everyone.

Think of this nothing going inside a man defiles him? Not even Penis of another man!!!!!!!! 

If you disagree show us a passage where Jesus condemned homosexuality? According to the NT Jesus never condemned homosexuality!



'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
(Leviticus 18:22)

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One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved, was reclining next to him.
(John 13:23)


Leaning back against Jesus, he asked him, "Lord, who is it?"
(John 13:25)


Then the disciple whom Jesus loved said to Peter, "It is the Lord!" As soon as Simon Peter heard him say, "It is the Lord," he wrapped his outer garment around him (for he had taken it off) and jumped into the water.
(John 21:7)


Then Peter, turning about, seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee?
(John 21:20)


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"In the Gospel of John, the disciple John frequently refers to himself in the third person as 'the disciple whom Jesus loved'." 4 One might argue that Jesus loved all of his followers in a non-sexual way. Thus to identify Jesus' love for John in a special way might indicate a sexual relationship. The disciple was "the" beloved. He was in a class by himself. 

During the Last Supper before Jesus' execution, the author(s) of the Gospel of John describes how the "beloved" disciple laid himself on Jesus' inner tunic -- his undergarment. See John 13:25 and 21:20. Robert Goss, assistant professor of comparative religion at Webster University in St. Louis, LA, noted that Jesus and the beloved disciple: "... eat together, side by side. What's being portrayed here is a pederastic relationship between an older man and a younger man. A Greek reader would understand." 

"In the Book of John a word is used eight times that means 'is in love with' with the implication of sexual intimacy. Five times it is used with reference to Jesus' relationship with John. Once it is used to define Jesus' relationship with Lazarus. And it is also used to describe his relationship with Mary and with her sister Martha." 

The late Morton Smith, of Columbia University reported in 1958 that he had found a fragment of a manuscript which at the Mar Saba monastery near Jerusalem. It contained the full text of Mark, chapter 10. Apparently the version that is in the Christian Scriptures is an edited version of the original. Additional verses allegedly formed part of the full version of Mark, and were inserted after verse 34. It discusses how a young man, naked but for a linen covering, expressed his love for Jesus and stayed with him at his place all night. 

"J Richards" suggested that Mark 7:14-16 shows that Jesus approves of homosexual acts. The critical phrase reads: "There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him..." 

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