forged books can't save you!

A while back I challenged Christians on the authenticity of their bible specially the gospels. The question that i asked them was :

How can you prove that the gospels you preach is 100% Authentic and Word of God? What Evidence do you have that the gospels are genuinely True and Jesus actually spoke all those words? 

In short I need you guys to prove and convince me the gospels are 100% word of God true to the very Text and that they are Truly Inspired !! I know Paul said all scriptures are Inspired but when Paul allegedly said that the gospels weren't written? He was referring to the Old Testament so don't try pulling that stunt...

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Now this question was so heavy on Christians as their entire salvation is based on the teaching of Jesus as found in the gospels . Many decided to keep quiet and let the question go by as if they didn't see it, and others true do to insults.  But their were a few who tied to answer this by quoting 2 Timothy 3:16 which I made mention of during my question. Anyway since they've only got this one verse which they can use as their defence to prove the authenticity of the gospels.. Let's find out what really lies behind 2 Timothy 3:16.

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, (2 Timothy 3:16)

Dr Erhman wrote on one of his blog and I quote :

"there letters that falsely claim to be written by Paul that are also *in* the New Testament?   Critical scholars (as opposed to fundamentalists and very conservative evangelical Christians) agree that there are.   Scholars normally place the thirteen Pauline letters of the New Testament into three categories:  The Pastoral Epistles of 1 and 2 Timothy and Titus, which are very widely recognized as having been written by someone other than Paul;"

Dr Ehrman also wrote, 

"But one point sometimes raised is that there is so much personal information in 2 Timothy, it is hard to see how it could be forged.  Why, for example, would a forger tell his alleged reader (who was not actually his reader!) to be sure to bring his cloak to him when he comes and also the books he left behind? 

"This objection has been convincingly answered by one of the great scholars of ancient forgery, Norbert Brox, who gives compelling evidence that this kind of "verisimilitude" (as I called it in Chapter 1) is typical for forgeries.  Making the letter sound "homey" removes the suspicion that it's forged.  The personal notices in 2 Timothy....serve, then, to convince readers that this really is written by Paul, even though it is not."

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Critical scholars are not in complete agreement over which books Paul actually wrote, but the “Pastoral Epistles” (1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, and Titus) are often rejected as authentically Pauline. In fact, these were some of the first books attacked by the critics. In 1807, Friedrich Schleiermacher, known as the father of modern liberalism,10 wrote a letter in which he claimed 1 Timothy must have been penned in the second century AD, because some of the language seemed to be an effort to refute Gnosticism, a heresy that flourished in the second century. Other scholars expanded on this idea and rejected the other Pastorals for the following reasons: the vocabulary used in these books is quite distinct from his other letters, the books do not contain Paul’s typical theological themes, they don’t seem to fit the chronology of Paul’s activities in Acts, and the view of church governance is too advanced for the first century.

The first known attempt to canonize certain writings as authoritative scripture was undertaken by Marcion circa 140 A.D. His canon contained 10 Pauline epistles. He included all of the putative Pauline epistles in our canon (plus a couple extra). Notably absent, however, are 1 & 2 Timothy and Titus.

Similarly, Papyrus 46, a codex of Pauline epistles from about 200 A.D., although damaged, appears to have contained all of the letters traditionally attributed to Paul, except for the Pastorals

Tatian in the mid-second century accepted Titus, but rejected 1 & 2 Timothy.

So the only verse which Christians use to support the authenticity of the gospels is FORGED !! Which means there is no other way to prove the authenticity of the gospels, thus it cannot be taken as the inspired word of God.

How can you say we are wise when the Torah of the Lord has been corrupted by the scribes (Jeremiah 8:8)

Next time Christians please save yourself from the embarrassment of quoting 2 Timothy 3:16 as your evidence!

Reference 

https://ehrmanblog.org/pauline-forgeries-2-thessalonians-as-a-test-case/

1. 10 Ehrman praised Schleiermacher as “one of the most important Christian theologians of the nineteenth century [who] was famous for defending the Christian faith against its ‘cultured despisers’ and for developing distinct theological views that influenced theologians well into the twentieth century.” Ehrman, Forged, p. 95. From a conservative or evangelical viewpoint, Schleiermacher was definitely an important or influential theologian, but not for the right reasons. For example, he had “some serious problems: his experimental form of pantheism; his acceptance of Kantian epistemology; his disjunction of experience and doctrine; his contention that truth does not apply to religion; his reduction of theology to anthropology; and his acceptance of negative higher criticism of the Bible.” Geisler, Norman L. 1999. Baker Encyclopedia of Christian Apologetics, p. 689. Grand Rapids, Michigan: Baker Book House.