Thursday, 3 May 2018

Is Every Living Thing Made of Water including Jinns?



I can't help but point out that water is literally produced from fire:

Flames consist primarily of carbon dioxide, water vapor, oxygen and nitrogen. (Wikipedia)
E.g. for methane combustion, we have the following chemical reaction:



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But I don't think this is the way it's intended to be interpreted. The Qur'an also says:

And We did certainly create man out of clay from an altered black mud. -- Qur'an 15:26

Clearly this does not mean that man is some kind of clay monster. It seems reasonable to interpret Qur'an 15:27 in the same spirit.

We don't view man being made out of clay as conflicting with the notion of man being made out of water. They mean different things.





Aisha Khaja: “Dr. Shabir, the question that we have is, the Quran states every living thing was made of water. How is this the case for jinns who were created from fire?


Dr. Shabir Ally: “It’s interesting that the tafsir of the Imam al-Razi actually answers this question.

He says that even though the verse in question—the 21st chapter in the Quran, the 30th verse—says […] “we created from water every living thing”, this excludes the angels and jinns.

Because we know from elsewhere in the Quran and in the other literature that the angels were created from light and the jinn from a smokeless sort of fire.
So, they are excluded.
I would like to add here that generally in the Quran when the word “kulla”, or everything, is used, it doesn’t necessarily mean everything, literally everything. It means everything within a certain context.
And even in our everyday speech. If you’re leaving the house for a picnic and somebody says, you have everything, or do we have everything?
The answer is usually, yes. But it doesn’t mean everything including the kitchen sink obviously, right? It means everything that we need for the trip.
And it seems also to me that the context of this statement within the verse is the earth and living things on the earth.
So, whereas, you know, jinns and angels existed before the creation of the earth.
The idea in the Quranic verse now is that God created the earth and every living thing on earth is made from water.”
Aisha Khaja: “So, when God references angels and jinns in the Quran it’s always within a separate context or?”
Dr. Shabir Ally: “Well, that would be like prior to the creation of the earth itself because these are the spirit creatures that may have existed before the earth was created.
Angels are definitely very ancient and jinns too seem to have proceeded human beings in the creation plan of God.”

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For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth. (Genesis 7:4)

Notice how yahweh said "every living subtance" will be wiped off the face of the earth? Did he wipe of noah and his family and the animals? Why then use "Every living substance"?


Jesus entered Jerusalem and went into the temple courts. He looked around at everything, but since it was already late, he went out to Bethany with the Twelve. (Mark 11:11)

Surely Jesus could not have looked at everything? don't get carried away with the use of language.

I wonder, if three bakers were to come visit the author of this list and one were to say: "Bread is made from flour," the next were to say "bread is made from dough" and the third were to say: "Bread is made from wheat," if he would consider this a "contradiction" too?

 

If two physicists now came along and one said "bread is made from atoms" and the other said "bread is made from molecules," would this be an even further "contradiction"? 

 

The blood of all living creatures is composed of 55 percent plasma, which in turn is composed of more than 90 percent water. As opposed to 1400 centuries ago when the Qur'an was first revealed by God, today it is a well known fact that the major "ingredient" in the human body is water (a matter emphasized ONLY in the Qur'an and not in the Bible). It is further very well known that mankind is made from "dust" (when you place his body in the grave and leave it for a number of years, and the water evaporates, what form does his body revert to? Further, what is "clay"? Is it not a special form of water and dust? It is equally obvious that if God created everything then there must have been a time when everything we see was "nothing," including humans. 

 

However, our current author severely dislikes all Muslims and is bent on discovering "contradictions." The irony of the matter is that although he has no formal knowledge of these matters but manages to brand all of these statements to be "contradictory," in spite of that, when truly objective and unbiased Christian scholars who are world renown specialist in this field are presented with the very same verses and many more, and spend over three years studying them in detail, we find these world renown Christian scholars so totally amazed at their accuracy in matters which were only scientifically proven in the last twenty years that they found no recourse but to admit that it must have come from God and even to go so far as to suggest the total replacement of current scientific terminology with that used by God in the Qur'an. But they is saying this with regard to the Muslim Qur'an and not their own Christian Bible. Who are some of these men? Among them are Prof. Keith Moore, Prof. E. Marshall Johnson, Prof. Joe Leigh Simpson, Prof. T.V.N. Persaud , Dr. Maurice Bucaille, and Dr. Tejatet Tejasen to name but a few. 

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