Invalid argument

I was having a discussion on Leviticus 20:10 on the punishment of adultery with a good Christian friend of mine. she said if there is no incident found in the Torah of such crime, then the law is invalid? i.e. since no mention of stoning a women over adultery is found in the Torah, Leviticus 20:10 is not applicable.

i showed her from the NT, Jews bringing an adulteress and reminding Jesus of the law. Jesus never reject the law, rather added his own twist by saying if your sinless then cast the first stone, making all of them accept they are sinners leaving the matter.

she still insisted, since Jesus never allowed the punishment to happen then the law is invalid?

if this is the criteria of deciding if something is acceptable on the ground of verifying if its mentioned anywhere in the Bible, then Christians have some serious problem to deal with.

1)

Paul said Jesus met 500 disciples during his post resurrection. now using our friends method of verification can you show us from the gospels narratives where it says Jesus met 500 of his disciples during his resurrection?

if you cant then this saying by Paul is a lie.

2)

Jesus said whoever looks at a women commits adultery in the heart. show us an incident from the bible who looked at women with lust making them commit adultery?

if you cant, his would mean the saying of your Jesus was a load of bull. that is using your criteria

3)

To prove who is true Prophet the Torah gives a guideline as found in Deuteronomy 18

show us from your Bible an incident where the uses used Deuteronomy 18 ans their guideline to prove Prophethood?

if you cant then the Deuteronomy 18 is meaninglessness. saying that, Leviticus 20:10 is a law which is sanctioned by your god many people were stoned for adultery historically we find such incidents in the Talmud. just because no incident was mentioned in the Torah doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Thanks for bringing this new twist on if it not found as an incident in the Bible then its invalid


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Christian man said, "the Quran suggests the "Jews" tried to kill and crucify Jesus, but God saved him. there is no indication of the Romans being involved. However, the New Testament is clear, Jesus was killed by the Romans"

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The New Testament may claim Jesus was killed by the Romans, but Paul on the other hand is clear the Jew killed Jesus not Romans. Note Muslims by no means accept Jesus Pbuh was killed or crucified, rather he was saved by God Almighty and taken up. Example below is to show these Christians they don't know themselves what happened.

14 Brothers and sisters, you are just like God’s churches in Judea. I mean that you were treated badly by your own people, just as those believers in Christ Jesus were treated badly by other Jews— 15 the same Jews who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets. And they forced us to leave their country. They are not pleasing to God, and they are against everyone else. (1 Thessalonians 2:14-15)

Even the Jews claim they killed Jesus of Nazareth

But isn’t it taught in a baraita: On Passover Eve they hung the corpse of Jesus the Nazarene after they killed him by way of stoning. And a crier went out before him for forty days, publicly proclaiming: Jesus the Nazarene is going out to be stoned because he practiced sorcery, incited people to idol worship, and led the Jewish people astray. Anyone who knows of a reason to acquit him should come forward and teach it on his behalf. And the court did not find a reason to acquit him, and so they stoned him and hung his corpse on Passover eve. (Talmud Sanhedrin 43a)

Notice from both Paul and the Jews, Jesus was killed and crucified. No mention of Romans playing any part. We also learn that the Jews were happy to declare they killed the messiah. Imagine they preserved it in their sacred texts. Their boast is found in many other tractates, e.g. "Sanhedrin 43b, 46a, 52a, 67a, 105a, 106b, 107b Yebamoth 6b, Gittin 57a.

How absurd, Paul makes no mention of Roman playing a role in killing Jesus, nor do the Jews. In fact the Jews take the blame on upon themselves. Case close.