Monday 27 April 2020

Trinity confusion


If Jesus is part of a divine trinity which makes up the essence of God almighty, and Jesus died on the cross, then what happened to God almighty? (Remember, Christians claim that they pray to one “triune” god and not three separate gods). Did the trinity die? Did it continue to exist in a severely crippled form? If a man is made up of heart, mind, and soul, and one of them dies; what happens to the rest of the man? Are they ONE or THREE? If God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are three names for the same being, (definition of the “trinity” required by Isaiah 43:10-11 and many other verses) and not three separate gods, then the “death of Jesus” is just another way of saying “the death of God the ‘Father’,” which is also another way of saying “the death of the Holy Ghost.”

Some members of the clergy will object that it was not “Jesus” per se who died, but rather it was “his human form” that died. His “godly” form was not affected. It is described as one describes someone removing his coat. This leaves us with a dilemma, because it leaves us with one of two cases:

1) Either Jesus  “himself” died, in which case, since he is claimed to be part of the “Trinity”, and the “Trinity” is claimed to be ONE god, not three (required by Isaiah 43:10-11 and many other verses), then God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are all claimed to have died, since they are all “the same essence”.

2) Or, Jesus “himself” did NOT die, but only shed his earthly body (as it were), and in this case we must ask, where then is the great sacrifice in this shedding of a useless shell? How is his shedding of this shell which is not his actual essence an ultimate sacrifice in atonement for all of mankind’s sins? Can he not simply make one hundred more human “shells” for himself to inhabit? Is his discarding of one of them an “ultimate sacrifice”?

Continuing with our theme of logic; remember when Jesus  is alleged to have died (Luke 23:46: “And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost”)? When people die they go to their Lord to be judged. If Jesus was, as claimed, a part of a trinity and the trinity is only ONE god (otherwise Christians would have to admit to worshipping multiple gods), then Jesus was with God in a trinity before his death. It was only after his death that he was claimed to have left God and gone down into hell for three days. However, this verse tells us a completely different story. It claims that Jesus’ soul was somewhere other than already with God (otherwise it would not have to go to him) and was now going to God. Also read John 17:11:”....I come to thee. Holy Father.” And John 17:13: “And now come I to thee”...etc.

Sadly enough, most Christians are taught to brush off these matters with words like “It is incomprehensible, that is why it must be true,” or “believe blindly or you will lose your soul.”???? Have we so soon forgotten “For God is not the author of confusion” 1 Corinthians 14:33?

When Jesus allegedly died and went to hell for three days (1 Corinthians 15:3 “Christ died for our sins”, Romans 5:6 “Christ died for the ungodly” etc.)? Did the trinity die then reside in hell also, or was a third of the trinity ripped away from the whole, then tortured and killed while the remaining two thirds (of God?) remained in it’s crippled form outside a safe distance away? Who was overseeing the heavens and the earth while all of this was happening? A crippled trinity? No one? If it is possible for one third of the “trinity” to die independently of the other two then it becomes obvious that they are separate and independent and not ONE God, this contradicts Isaiah 43:10- 11. However, if they are indeed ONE God then the death of this one God contradicts many verses such as Jeremiah 10:10 “But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king.” Also, if the giver of life is dead then who shall bring Him back to life?


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