Rebecca the 10 year old bride!

Whenever I  across a Christian who acts like he's an expert on the bible. I simply ask him how well versed are you with the Hebrew bible and what type of method do you use to interpret the texts which your not sure about. 9 out of 10 admit they don't know Hebrew which is highly unsual for them as they are known for lying their way out when they get corned, but hey at least they've admitted to something.

Now that we've established that most Christians do not know Hebrew nor have that understanding on how to interpret the Hebrew texts. I would like to focus on a specific topic which Christian are unaware of. The Age of Rebecca when she got Married to Isaac?.

This subject has been discussed by many Christians mainly low level apologist who again have no idea of the Hebrew language and tried using their own interpretations which only backfired on them. The most obvious argument they make is the bible does not tell us Rebecca's Age at all you won't find it anywhere. Seems like a valid argument that's only if you read the English translation you won't find the age of Rebecca, but does this apply with the Hebrew text and the Answer is No. Before we get into the actual age given in the Hebrew bible I would like to show how certain words can give us a full picture of what the subject is for example :

A baby is not an infant nor is an infant an adolescent nor is an adolescent a teenager nor is a teenager and old man or women. Each word gives a picture of who we are referring to the words are only meant for that specific person. Each word will only fit that age. Just like me say he is an old man I'm not speaking of a baby or an infant or even a teenager rather I'm specifying who and what age the person fits in just by using this specific word which is only meant for that age category. This also applies for Arabic and Hebrew texts certain words would only apply on Specific object or subject. Now let's read from the book of Genesis and show old old was Rebecca.

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Before he had finished praying, Rebekah came out with her jar on her shoulder. She was the daughter of Bethuel son of Milkah, who was the wife of Abraham's brother Nahor. And the girl was very beautiful, a virgin, and no man had had relations with her; and she went down to the spring and filled her jar, and came up.

(Genesis 24:15-16)

Just to have a little background info on the above passage The beginning of chapter 24 you'll read that Abraham was old and asked his servant to go find his son Isaac a Wife. So his servant who made an oath to find Isaac a wife set off on his he came to a water well where he found Rebecca. The interesting part comes when we read verse 15 :

"And the girl was very beautiful, a virgin, and no man had had relations with her; and she went down to the spring and filled her jar, and came up." Verse 15. The question is was Rebecca really a girl as the bible states if so how Old? The Hebrew text gives us the answer. 

The Hebrew text used for girl is NAAR! Now this word NAAR in Hebrew means child of 10 years or less 

Encyclopedia of Jewish Medical Ethics defines the word as someone who is a “minor”, “very young person, including a baby”:

“MINOR*
A. DEFINITION OF THE TERM
Katan (minor) and yeled (child are Hebrew terms used interchangeable. The term yeled in the Bible is used for a human being from birth through adulthood, including an infant (tinok), a lad (NAAR), a youth (elem), and even a fetus (ubar). The term Katan refers to a very young person, particularly when compared to an older person. In Jewish law, the term Katan distinguishes a minor from an adult with regard to legal rights and responsibilities. The Halakhic age of a katan is defined differently in accordance with specific laws.
The word naar refers to a VERY YOUNG PERSON, INCLUDING A BABY. The word is also used to denote a maid or servant.” (Encyclopedia of Jewish Medical Ethics: A compilation of Jewish medical law on all topics of medical interest, from the most ancient sources to the most current deliberations and decisions, with a concise medical and historical background, and a comprehensive analysis of relevant general ethical approaches [Translated by Fred Rosner, M. D., An updated and edited English version of the Hebrew 1998/ 1988, edition 2003] compiled and written by Avraham Steinberg, M.D., volume 1, page 679)

scholars Johann Buxtorf and Franz Delitzsch write on the word Na’ar:

“2. N’r II. Johann Buxtorf connects na’ar with n’r II, ‘shake off.’ A na’ar is a ‘LITTLE BOY, AN INFANT,’ IN THAT HE HAS BEEN ‘FORCED OUT OF HIS MOTHER’S WOMB.’ Franz Delitzsch takes as his starting point the striking use of n’r in the Pentateuch to refer to a FEMALE, concluding that ‘originally it denoted a NEW-BORN INFANT OF EITHER SEX,’ since it ‘is an ancient derived noun with the meaning ‘shaking off, bringing forth’ (cf. Job 39:3), concretely: that which has been brought forth, offspring.’” (9. F. Delitzsch, ‘Pentateuch-Kritisce Studien. VIII, ‘Seitschrift fur Wissenschaft und Kirkliches Leben, 1 (1880), 393-99.) (Theological Dictionary of the Old Testament, by (edited) G. Johannes Botterweck, Helmer Ringgren and Heinz-Jozef Fabry, [William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, Grand Rapids, Michigan, U.K., translated by David E. Green, 1998], Volume 9, page 475)

A complete Hebrew and English critical and pronouncing dictionary:

“נַעֲרָ na’ar. … A lad, youth, son, a young servant, an INFANT, or NEW-BORN BABE, because just liberated from the womb. Jud. 13:17. Exod. 2:6. Gen. 24:19. 2 Sam. 13:33. …” (A complete Hebrew and English critical and pronouncing dictionary: on a new and improved plan, containing all the words in the Holy Bible, Both Hebrew and Chaldee, with the vowel points, prefixes and Affixes, as they stand in the original text: Together with their derivation, literal and etymlogical meaning, as it occurs in every part of the Bible and illustrated by numerous citations from the Targums, Talmud and cognate Dialects. [New York: Published by Collins, Keese & Co., 230 Pearl Street, University Press – J. F. Trow, Printer, 1837] by William L. Roy (profesor of oriental Languages in New York), page 516 – 517)

Hebrew-English Lexicon:

“נַעֲרָ m. (with suff. …; pl. …). – INFANT. – II. BOY. – III. Youth. – IV. Servant. …” (Hebrew-English Lexicon – Containing all the Hebrew And Chaldee words in the Old Testament Scriptures, with their meanings in English [BJT – Maltae terricolis linguae, coelestibus una – London: Samuel Bagster And Sons, Limited, New York – james Pott & Co., 1898], page 169)

A Complete Hebrew-English Pocket-Dictionary to the Old Testament:

“נַעֲרָ (na’ar) pt. נַעֲרָ, pt. p. …, to shake, to stir; to shake out. – Ni. … fut. …, to share oneself free from, to get rid of; to be shaken off. – Pi. …, fut., to shake, push, drive away. – Hith. … to shake oneself from. נַעֲרָ (na’ar) m, w.s. … pl. …, c. …, CHILD, boy, youth; servant; male; maid, GIRL.” (A Complete Hebrew-English Pocket-Dictionary to the Old Testament, [Third edition, Berlin – Schoneberg (Prof. G. Langenscheidt), Langenscheidtsche Verlagsbuchhandlung, London, W. C. H. Grevel & Co. New York, The International News company – Johannesburg: Hermann Michaelis, third edition] by Professor Karl Feyerabend, Ph, D. page 218 – 219)

We also read Rebecca had her own NURSE, its so obvious why she had a NURSE because she was a little girl!

Send me away that I may go to my master." And they said, "We will call the girl and consult her wishes." Then they called Rebekah and said to her, "Will you go with this man?" And she said, "I will go. Thus they sent away their sister Rebekah and her nurse with Abraham's servant and his men (Genesis 24:57:59)

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Here's more evidence from the bible that NAAR means baby or up to 10 years old.

When she opened it, she saw the child, and behold, the baby (NAAR) was crying. She took pity on him and said, “This is one of the Hebrews’ children.”(Exodus 2:6)

Moses answered, "We will go with our young (NAAR) and our old, with our sons and our daughters, and with our flocks and herds, because we are to celebrate a festival to the LORD." (Exodus 10:9)

Turning to Jether, his oldest son, he said, "Kill them!" But Jether did not draw his sword, because he was only a boy (NAAR) and was afraid. (Judges 8:20)

Then Manoah prayed to the LORD and said, “O Lord, please let the man of God whom you sent come again to us and teach us what we are to do with the child (NAAR) who will be born.” (Judges 13:8)

Then the woman gave birth to a son and named him Samson; and the child (NAAR) grew up and the LORD blessed him. (Judges 13:24)

And when she had weaned him, she took him up with her, along with a three-year-old bull, an ephah of flour, and a skin of wine, and she brought him to the house of the LORD at Shiloh. And the child was young(NAAR). (1 Samuel 1:24)

"Start running," he told the boy, "so you can find the arrows as I shoot them." So the boy (NAAR) ran, and Jonathan shot an arrow beyond him. (1 Samuels 20:36)

David pleaded with God for the child (NAAR). He fasted and spent the nights lying in sackcloth on the ground. (2 Samuel 12:16)

Hadad fled to Egypt, along with some Edomites from his father's servants. At the time Hadad was a small boy (NAAR). (1 kings 11:17)

young men and women, old men and children (NAAR). (Psalm 148:12)

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Even the book of Jasher confirms Rebecca was 10 years old. Note Joshua 10:13 speaks of the book of Jasher as a book of Authority to confirm the sun standing still 

(THE BOOK OF JASHAR 24:37-45)

37. And the Lord hearkened to the voice of Eliezer, for the sake of his servant Abraham, and he happened to meet with the daughter of Bethuel, the son of Milcah, the wife of Nahor, brother to Abraham, and Eliezer came to her house.
38. And Eliezer related to them all his concerns, and that he was Abraham’s servant, and they greatly rejoiced at him.
39. And they all blessed the Lord who brought this about, and they gave him, Rebecca, the daughter of Bethuel, for a wife for Isaac.
40. And the young woman was of very comely appearance, she was a virgin, and Rebecca was ten years old in those days.
41. And Bethuel and Laban and his children made a feast on that night, and Eliezer and his men came and ate and drank and rejoiced there on that night.
42. And Eliezer rose up in the morning, he and the men that were with him, and he called to the whole household of Bethuel, saying, send me away that I may go to my master; and they rose up and sent away Rebecca and her nurse Deborah, the daughter if UZ and they gave her silver and gold , men servants and maid servants, and they blessed her.
43. And they sent Eliezer away with his men; and the servants took Rebecca, and he went and returned to his master to the land of Canaan.
44. And Isaac took Rebecca and she became his wife, and he brought her into the tent.
45. And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebecca, the daughter of his uncle Bethuel, for a wife.

We can now conclude with utmost certainty that Rebecca was 10 years old when she Married Isaac. 

Thanks to Kaleef K. Karim for his research and reference from discover the truth 

Did Jesus of the bible wear woman's garment? ( bible says yes)

It's amazing how Christians deceive and mislead  each other intentionally just for the sake of fame! Rather then being honest and sincere they lie to their own brothers in faith. A perfect example is the lie and allegation made  about Prophet Muhammed Pbuh wearing woman's garment  ثَوْبِ (THAWB). This is one brutal ludicrous lie made by david wood and what's worse he's passed this dirty lie to his fellow Christian brothers deceiving them to believe him Below This lie shall be destroyed!.

First of all the word  ثَوْبِ (THAWB) in Arabic does not mean women's garment rather it means PIECE OF CLOTH. It's absolutely insane to believe THAWB means Woman's garment, of not worse believing in  David wood who doesn't know a shred Arabic!

“ثَوْبِ, A garment, (M. Mgh, Msb, K,) [or PIECE OF CLOTH of cloth] … Es-Sarakhsee uses the phrase … (thiyaab). Mh) … [He clung to the CURTAINS of the House of God], i.e., to the curtains of the Kaabeh… (A.) – Sometimes, ثَوْبِ, is used metonymically to signify A thing [of any kind] that veils, covers, or protects.”(Edward William Lane’s Arabic-English Lexicon (Dictionary) volume 1, page 362)

From Al-Andalus to Khurasan: Documents from the Medieval Muslim World:

“The price depended on the quality of the textile and the kind of clothing purchased. Three PIECES OF CLOTH (THAWB) were brought for 20 1/3 dirhams (P. Marchands III 43.3); four pieces (THAWB) for 21 qirat (P. Marchands III 41.9-10); a PIECE OF COTTON CLOTH (AL-THAWB al-qutn) for 14 ½ dirhams (P.Marchands III 36. 12-13)…” (From Al-Andalus to Khurasan: Documents from the Medieval Muslim World [Brill, Leiden, Boston, 2007] by Petra Sijpesteijn and Lennart Sundelin page 157)

Al-Mawrid, Modern Arabic-English Dictionary:

“garment; dress, robe, gown; suit, costume, CLOTH, ثَوْبِ, FABRIC, MATERIAL, garb, cloak…” (Al-Mawrid, Modern Arabic-English dictionary, by Rohi Baalbaki, Lebanon (1995) Page 404)

William Thomson Wortabet – Arabic-English Dictionary:

“ثَوْبِ, garment, CLOTH. Actions, deeds…” (Arabic-English dictionary by William Thomson Wortabet, John Wortabet, Harvey Porter (1984) Page 59)

English-Arabic Vocabulary:

“CLOTH.
-, Cotton
– in piece. ثَوْبِ.
– Tracing. (English-Arabic vocabulary for the use of officials in the Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, by Captain Harold Amery (1905) page 71)

The following report also tell us that thawb just means a cloth or sheet one can wrap himself/herself in:

“Ibn ‘Umar reported the Messenger of Allah as saying, or reported ‘Umar as saying: if one of you has two (piece of) CLOTH, he should pray in them; if he has a single (piece of) CLOTH, he should use it as a WRAPPER, and should not hang it upon the shoulder…
ابْنِ عُمَرَ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَوْ قَالَ قَالَ عُمَرُ رضى الله عنه ‏ “‏ إِذَا كَانَ لأَحَدِكُمْ ثَوْبَانِ فَلْيُصَلِّ فِيهِمَا فَإِنْ لَمْ يَكُنْ إِلاَّ ثَوْبٌ وَاحِدٌ فَلْيَتَّزِرْ بِهِ وَلاَ يَشْتَمِلِ اشْتِمَالَ الْيَهُودِ ‏”‏ ‏ (Sunan Abi Dawud Book 2, Hadith 635, Sahih Al-Albani)

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But even for arguments sake if we took the word THAWB to be woman's garment as David wood claims! Then he's in a a lot of trouble when we use his own bible against him.

Take for example this verse taken from gospel of Mark 5 verse 27

"She had heard the reports about Jesus and came up behind him in the crowd and touched his GARMENT." The Arabic bible uses the word  ثوبه (THAWB) so using David woods understanding of the word (THAWB ثوبه) as found in the Arabic bible we can conclude Jesus was wearing a WOMAN'S GARMENT walking in the midst of people!.

Next verse taken from the gospel John 13 verse 4

"He riseth from supper, and laid aside his GARMENTS; and took a towel, and girded himself." The Arabic bible uses the word  ثوبه (THAWB) again if we was going to use the same method as David wood did with the Arabic word  ثوبه (THAWB) then we have to conclude that before washing his disciples feet Jesus TOOK OF HIS WOMAN'S GARMENT!

Another explicit statement is found in Mark 2 verse 21 

"No one sews a patch of unshrunk cloth on an old garment. Otherwise, the new piece will pull away from the old, making the tear worse. The Arabic bible uses the word  ثوبه (THAWB) once again we if was going to use David woods pathetic missionary twist then we can conclude Jesus was talking about WOMAN'S GARMENT! 

There are many more verses found in the Arabic bible where ثوبه (THAWB) is found no doubt the Arabic word for THAWB means Cloth, garment ..... No woman's garment unless we use David woods translation which would mean Jesus of the bible wore woman's garment.!

JazakhAllahu khair Kaleef K. Karim for your research and reference from discover the truth 

bible allows the rapist to marry his victim!

If a man rapes a 12 year old he gets to marry her providing he pays 50 shekels to the father!

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This disturbing command is found in the book of Deuteronomy also known as the Torah which Jews and Christian revere. 

Now if you read the english translation of this verse you've never find 12 year old in it, Rather you'll find "a virgin" or a Virgin women'. This is a gross mistranslation of the Hebrew text the actual meaning can be found only when you read the Hebrew text and translate it accurately. One may wonder why wouldn't the KJV or any english translators not accurately translate it when over verses or passages are correct?

The only reason for that is EMBARRASSMENT, if they accurately translates this verse then the bible will be exposed for its mistreatment towards young girls. Just for the records there are many many other verses which haven't been accurately translates deliberately due to the same reason. Let use expose this verse and show how  a 12 year old girl if raped gets to marry het rapist.

"If a man finds a girl who is a virgin, who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her and they are discovered, then the man who lay with her shall give to the girl's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall become his wife because he has violated her; he cannot divorce her all his days.(Deuteronomy 22:28-29)

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The above passage in Hebrew clearly  says  if a man rapes a 12 year old girl. How do we know that because  The Hebrew text used for girl is   נַעֲרָה  naarah (nah-ar-aw'). The word naara means up to 12 years old below are confirmation by biblical scholars :

Cornelia B. Horn Professor of early Christianity, and John W. Martens professor of theology at the University of St. Thomas in Minnesota:

“The dividing line for the marriage of girls becomes clearer in m. Yebamoth 6:10. That passage states that a High Priest was not to marry a bogeret (a girl who had reached the age of maturity), but only one younger than that. The bogeret, defined by commentators as a girl of twelve and a half years of age, was set apart in m. Ketuboth 3:8 from the Katanah (less than twelve years and a day) and the na’arah (a girl twelve years and a day). M. Niddah 5:7 schematizes the stages of a girl’s life in much the same manner. The stages of childhood are compared to three stages of the ripening process of a fig. The Mishnah distinguishes between an undeveloped fig, corresponding to the yaldut, the period from three to twelve years; a ripening fig, which indicates THE NA’ARAH, WHO IS NO OLDER THAN TWELVE YEARS AND A DAY; and the ripe fig, representing the bogeret, who is no older than twelve and a half years. These ages are clearly associated with physical sexual maturity, and the concern over what constitutes a ‘pure’ marriage for different groups in Judaism, principally along the line of division between priest or Levite and layman.” (“Let the Children Come To Me”, Childhood and Children in Early Christianity [The Catholic University of America Press, Washington, D.C., 2009] by Cornelia B. Horn and John W. Martens, page 11)

Mary F. Foskett Wake Forest Kahle Professor of Religion, her studies are the New Testament, she says the word ‘Na’arah’ refers to someone who is twelve and a half years old:

“Prescriptions concerning bride-price reveal that virgin females were afforded a higher value than females who were presumed to be sexually experienced. They also provide us with a glimpse of how the Mishnah often understands the place of minor daughters. According to M. Nid. 5/7 and M. Qid. 2.1, a father can claim the fruit of his minor daughter’s labor, annul her vows, and arrange her marriage.
Upon reaching the age of twelve and one-half, however, a daughter no longer remains subject to her father’s dominion (M. Nid. 5.7). She either passes the jurisdiction of her betrothed (or spouse) gains legal autonomy. Given the norm of marriage that permeates the Mishnah, the latter case was likely expected to remain in the minority. Ideally, minor daughters were both constrained by patriarchal authority and attributed sexual and reproductive power. As Wegner observes,

‘the young girl possesses one salient characteristic: she is a sexual chattel. Nearly all references to the girl-child under twelve (qetannah) or THE PUBESCENT GIRL BETWEEN TWELVE AND TWELVE AND ONE-HALF YEARS (NAARAH) – unlike references to minor sons- speak directly or indirectly of her sexuality, with particular emphasis on her virginity.’” (A Virgin Conceived: Mary and Classical Representations of Virginity [Indian University Press, Bloomington & Indianapolis, 2002] by Mary F. Foskett page 48)

Professor Rachel Adler:

“During this period, all marriages of young girls were arranged by a father or a guardian. Our Mishnah applies to girls in the category of qetanah, a minor under the age of twelve, or in the CATEGORY OF NA’ARAH, BETWEEN TWELVE AND TWELVE-AND-A-HALF YEARS, WHEN THEY ARE PRESUMED TO BE ENTERING puberty. This period seems to have been when most girls were married. A young woman over twelve-and-a-half, a bogeret, had to consent to the marriage and herself received the espousal money and the monetary settelement in her Ketubah in the event of divorce or the husband’s death. Because a qetana or a na’arah would, most likely, have returned to her father’s house, he received the Ketubah money. If married as a qetana or na’arah, but adult at the time of divorce or the husband’s death, she received the sum herself.” (Islamic and Jewish Legal Reasoning: Encountering Our Legal Other [edited by Anver Emon, 2016] by Rachel Adler, page 40)

Rabbi Yissachar Dov Rubin:

“The Talmud (Yoma 2a) notes that the Kohen gadol would take a new wife before beginning the Yom Kippur service so that he might fulfill the obligation of achieving atonement for his household. Rav Yaakov Meir Biderman, son-in-law of the Sfas Emes, poses the following question. One one hand, we find (Yevamos 59a) an opinion that maintains that the Kohen gadol could marry only a NA’ARAH [A GIRL BETWEEN THE AGES OF TWELVE AND TWELVE AND A HALF]. On the other hand, we find (Shabbos 89b) that a girl under the age of twenty is not considered to punishable. How was it possible for the Kohen gadol to atone for someone who was not culpable.” (Talelei Oros: The Parashah Anthology – Vayikra / Leviticus, selected and compiled by Rabbi Yissachar Dov Rubin [Adapted into English by Rabbi David Landesman, 1997], page 178)

And:

“NA’ARAH
A girl between the ages of twelve years and one day and twelve and a half years plus one day.” (The Gospel of the Nazirenes [B’nai Ysrael Ha’Derech, Netzari Faith, 2015] by Rav Yaakov Bar Yosef

Professor Judith Romney Wegner:

“12. Mishnaic law, ‘adult daughter’ (bogeret) means one who has reached the age of twelve-and-a-half years and a day. Between the AGES OF TWELVE AND TWELVE-AND-A-HALF she is a ‘maiden’ (NA’ARAH), liable to keep precepts of Torah but not yet emancipated. Unless married off by her father during this six-month period (as normally happens), she will acquire full autonomy at the end of it.” (Jewish Women in Historical Perspective [Second edition: Wayne State University Press, Detroit, 1998] by Judith Romney Wegner, page 95)

Anglican Priest Herbert Danby:

“1. Cf. Arak. 3:4.
2.Cf. B. K. 8:1.
3. The fifty shekels enjoined in Deut. 22:29.
4. Less than twelve years old.
5. Her father may sell her as a slave.
6. By her violator or seducer.
7. Heb. NAARAH, AGED TWELVE TO TWELVE AND A HALF.
8. Heb. Bogereth, more than twelve and a half.” (The Mishnah: Translated from the Hebrew with Introduction and Brief Explanatory Notes [Hendrickson Publishers Marketing, LLC, 2011] by Herbert Danby, page 249)

Sufficient evidence prove that naara means 12 years. How do Christians swallow this !

Thanks to Kaleef K. Karim for his research and reference from discover the truth 

Interesting, the reading for Deuteronomy 22:28 in the manuscript has a different reading to what you find in the printed text.  

The text in Leningrad Codex Folio 112v reads as "if a man finds a 'boy' who is a virgin" the Hebrew reads "naar" boy (masculine) not "naar'ah" female (feminine). What is the text trying to say? Is it promoting homosexuality?

 

Either way the rapist wins. Exodus 22:15-16 gives a ruling to the rapist same as Deuteronomy 22:28-29, this time with a slight leniency. In Exodus, the father decides whether he should marry his daughter to him, but still has to pay 50 shekels. in Deuteronomy he has to marry her. The only difference between the two ruling is, one you marry her the other the father decides whether you marry her or not. It's monetary charge imposed upon the individual who is charged for rape.

The rapist drinks from his vessel (Talmud Ketubot 39a) [atzitzo], i.e., marries the woman he raped, perforce, and the seducer, if he wishes to release her, he releases her.

The mishna clarifies: How does the rapist drink from his vessel? Even if the woman he raped is lame, even if she is blind, and even if she is afflicted with boils, he is obligated to marry her and may not divorce her. However, if a matter of licentiousness is found in her, e.g., if she committed adultery, or if she is unfit to enter the Jewish people, e.g., if she is a mamzeret, he is not permitted to sustain her as his wife, as it is stated: “And to him she shall be as a wife” (Deuteronomy 22:29), from which it is inferred that she must be a woman who is legally suitable for him.

GEMARA: The mishna taught that a rapist pays for the pain that he caused. The Gemara asks: For what pain is he obligated to pay? Shmuel’s father said: It is for the pain that he caused when he slammed her onto the ground while raping her. Rabbi Zeira strongly objects to this: But if what you say is so, if he slammed her onto silk, so too is the halakha that he is exempt from payment for pain? And if you say indeed that it is so, but isn’t it taught in a baraita that Rabbi Shimon ben Yehuda says in the name of Rabbi Shimon: A rapist does not pay for the pain due to the fact (Talmud Ketubot 39a)

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Any place where there is sale by a father of his minor daughter as a Hebrew maidservant, there is no fine if she is raped. And any place where there is a fine, when a young woman is raped; there is no sale by the father. The Gemara specifies: A minor is subject to sale by her father, and she is not entitled to a fine if she is raped. A young woman is entitled to a fine if she is raped and is not subject to sale. A grown woman is neither subject to sale nor entitled to a fine. (Mishnah Ketubot 3.8)

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The rapist drinks from his vessel (Talmud Ketubot 39a)

Literal or metaphorical?

Talk about being desperate! I've encountered a Christian by the name of 

Folarin folabi who randomly messaged me on my facebook inbox. He was on frenzy mode lol....

I'll summarise briefly our conversation  and also post screenshot. So this guy innocently asked me is Jesus a Muslim? So I replied back yes, that was it he fired up like a rocket and I serious he literally blew up lol bombarding my inbox...

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He said if Jesus called God his father then how is he a Muslim when Muslims don't call God father? He's response was genuine until i replied WHEN YOU SAY FATHER DO YOU MEAN LITERAL FATHER WHO HAS A WIFE MATES WITH HER AND HAS HIS SEMEN INSIDE HER, I.E PROCREATION OR METAPHORICAL FATHER ? I also asked him did Moses call God father ? This made it worse and he's frustration turned to insults..

Now since this inbox isn't going anything I said I'll make a post for everyone to see.. My answers which cornered him remains the same 

* Was Jesus the literal son of God? Or metaphorical son?

* we know what children of God means in the Old Testament so Moses referring to 

   yahweh as the father to isreal only means servants of God

* Yahweh called Moses a God was it literal or metaphorical?

* Jesus said to the Jews "ye are God" was that literal or metaphorical .

* Jesus said 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'

   Does father literally mean what is says?

* if God was literally Jesus's  father why did he not mention of his son anywhere in 

   the Old Testament 

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Sometime it makes you wonder why Christians out themselves in an awkward situation?

they have not learn from Jesus(pbuh) in bible.. Jews replied to Jesus(pbuh) and  called God their "Father"

“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.( John 8:41)"

Jesus(pbuh) replied:

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. (John 8:44)"

so we can learn if someone call God "father", that doesnt mean they are following true God, infact with what Jesus(pbuh) replied in "John 8:44", it makes it clear, the one they were calling "father" is not God but infact "Devil".

So calling God "Father" doesnt make a point..

The Naked Truth!!!!

The LORD told Isaiah son of Amoz, “Take off the burlap you have been wearing, and remove your sandals.” Isaiah did as he was told and walked around NAKED and barefoot.Then the LORD said, “My servant Isaiah has been walking around NAKED and barefoot.... (Isaiah 20:2-3)

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Ask yourself this Question was Isaiah a true prophet?. Would God degrade his prophet by making him walk Naked!. Did Isaiah really get a message from God? Isn't this something that Satan would do rather then God?. One cannot comprehend that a loving God would make his chosen Prophet who's carrying his words walk Naked and humiliate him like that.

If Christians can accept Isaiah as a prophet of God who walked stripped Naked and have no doubt about his authenticity of being a prophet why do they reject Ours? 

Now here's the problem suppose you saw a man walking Naked down your neighbourhood in front of you family and you went to admonish him and he said he he is a prophet of God was told by God to walk Naked will you  believe in him? Would you think he was a True prophet or a Mad man making a scene?

Note Christians believe That this very man prophesied about their messiah?  Ask yourself can you really believe a man who walks Naked and claims God told him!

Beating your wife (misconception)

we are still waiting to see how the Arabic text wadribuhunna is beating your wife. When the word Darb can have up to 16 meanings... Many muffasirun disagree it saying beat your wife...

The Quran study shows us how different muffasirun give different interpretations... One states Strike a deal with them, another states move out I.e walk out from them untill you calm down.

There's many interpretations... And the main point is we  have Sahih Hadith where Prophet Muhammed Pbuh Never Hit a women in his life nor a slave.

 ولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ شَيْئًا قَطُّ بِيَدِهِ وَلَا امْرَأَةً وَلَا خَادِمًا إِلَّا أَنْ يُجَاهِدَ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ

“Aisha reported that Allah's Messenger, may Allah bless him, never beat anyone with his hand, neither a woman nor a servant, but only, in the case when he had been fighting in the cause of Allah …” (Sahih Muslim, Hadith 4296)

Tafsir Ibn Kathir, chapter 68:
Imam Ahmad recorded that `A’ishah said, “The Messenger of Allah never struck a servant of his with his hand, nor did he ever hit a woman. He never hit anything with his hand, except for when he was fighting Jihad in the cause of Allah. And he was never given the option between two things except that the most beloved of the two to him was the easiest of them, as long as it did not involve sin. If it did involve sin, then he stayed farther away from sin than any of the people. He would not avenge himself concerning anything that was done to him, except if the limits of Allah were transgressed. Then, in that case he would avenge for the sake of Allah.”

From the above Hadiths you can see Aisha (RA) has reported that Prophet Muhammed Pbuh never Beat a Women or Slave. You can't get more clear then that. The allegations made by anti Muslims that Prophet Muhammed Pbuh hit his wife Aisha (RA) is a lie since Aisha (RA) has told us as recorded from the above Hadith that Prophet Muhammed Pbuh Never hit a Women. Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (3895) and Ibn Majaah (1977), also quoted in Imam Ghazzali's Ihya Ulum-Id-Din, Marriage section:

"The best of you is the one who is best to his wife, and I am the best of you to my wives."

Dr shabir Ally wrote a paper that the text doesn't mean beat your wife... Infact the word beat is not even in the text.. Read Surah 20:17-18 when Moses Pbuh says he uses His Staff to BEAT THE LEAVES .. (Wa ahushu) BEAT

In fact Imam Habib Alli one the meaning of Darb could be love and Romance, I.e show her love. 

Note Prophet Muhammed Pbuh was against man beating his wife :

Narrated 'Abdullah bin Zam'a:
The Prophet said, "None of you should flog his wife as he flogs a slave and then have sexual intercourse with her in the last part of the day."

(Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 132)

Narrated by al-Tirmidhi (3895) and Ibn Majaah (1977), also quoted in Imam Ghazzali's Ihya Ulum-Id-Din, Marriage section:
"The best of you is the one who is best to his wife, and I am the best of you to my wives."

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:

Habibah daughter of Sahl was the wife of Thabit ibn Qays Shimmas He beat her and broke some of her part. So she came to the Prophet (ﷺ) after morning, and complained to him against her husband. The Prophet (ﷺ) called on Thabit ibn Qays and said (to him): Take a part of her property and SEPARATE YOURSELF FROM HER. He asked: Is that right, Messenger of Allah? He said: Yes. He said: I have given her two gardens of mine as a dower, and they are already in her possession. The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Take them and SEPARATE YOURSELF FROM HER.Sahih (Al-Albani): Sunan Abi Dawud, Book 12, Hadith 2220

was the Torah present during the time of Samuel?

(Previously in Israel, a person would say when he went to inquire of God, "Come on! Let's go to the seer!" because the person known as a prophet today was formerly called a seer.) (1 Samuel 9:9)

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the aboive saying seems to confirms that during the time of Samuel the Torah of Moses was not present with them. Notice how the above says " PREVIOUSLY IN ISRAEL" that is in the past, secondly if a man wanted to inquire of God he will go to a seer! Now known as a prophet?

What's fascinating about the above verse is that had Samuel known of the Torah of Moses then he would of seen the word Prophet is mentioned many times not seer! In fact the word seer is only found in the book of Samuel?

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Was Samuel not aware of the much controversial passage from Deuteronomy 18

I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him. (Deuteronomy 18:18 Masoretic Torah)

Here we read Yahweh saying he will raise a PROPHET (נָבִ֨יא) Nabi not SEER. That was one of many many other verses which speaks of Prophets and nowhere is seer mentioned that's according to the Masoretic.

In short 1 Samuel 9:9 the word “Prophet” was not used before Samuel the prophet, yet we find the word “prophet” all through the Torah, indicating we don’t have the “real” law of Moses. This tells us that the original Torah was not with Samuel !

Sorry to be harsh!

Feel real sorry for African Christians with all due respect either way they are lost... Take for instant this nasara by the name of prince David Marcus. Since he's new to Christianity he's using old Christian missionary busted tactics which have been destroyed by Muslims centuries ago...

He is bringing up the same old debunked claims how can Mary Pbuh be the sister of Aaron Pbuh? Even though he's posted the Hadith which explains the verse this nasara wants to mock.. And what makes me laugh is on his post he wrote " EVEN SISTER OR BROTHER IS INAPPROPRIATE AND NOT USED IN HEBREW"? Really Marcus lol lets use his own bible to destroy this pea brained street evangelist lol

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Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land. (Deuteronomy 23:7)

So the Edomites should not be despised because they are your brother what the whole tribe?

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And when Abram heard that his brother lot was taken captive, he armed his trained servants, born in his own house, three hundred and eighteen, and pursued them unto Dan. (Genesis 14:14)

And he brought back all the goods, and also brought again his brother Lot, and his goods, and the women also, and the people. (Genesis 14:12)

So Abram said to Lot, "Please let there be no strife between you and me, nor between my herdsmen and your herdsmen, for we are brothers.

(Genesis 13:8)

So Abrahams nephew Lot is also his brother?

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For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."

(Matthew 12:50)

So anyone who follows Jesus is his brother and sister or mother ?

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In the time of Herod king of Judea, there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly division of Abijah, and whose wife Elizabeth was a daughter of Aaron.

(Luke 1:5)

Was she really the daughter of Aaron ? Or descendent now imagine if we start playing those pathetic games how will u react!!   

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He will be a FRUITFUL MAN; his hand will be with everyone and everyone's hand will be with him, and he will live among all his brothers."

(Genesis 16:12 Samaritan text) 

How many brothers did Ishmael Pbuh have?

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"I have become a brother to jackals And a companion of ostriches.

(Job 30:29)

Was he really the brother of jackals ?

Something to ponder on

The word Judaism is not found in the Old Testament, nor is Judaism called a Religion in the Old Testament so what religion did Moses present to the children of Israel  I.e Nation to follow?

Now one may say just because the Old Testament doesn't use the word Judaism doesn't mean people wasn't aware of it, take for instance the New Testament we find Judaism in there. But notice Judaism is only spoken by Paul? Not even Jesus himself nor the gospels uttered such a word?. Secondly the questions authenticity depends on the Old Testament the entire codex has no mention of such a religion how comes ? 

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Here comes the blow 

What religion did the prophets of the Old Testament follow is not mentioned, nor does the Old Testament distinguish their belief status other then calling them righteous, upright, perfect, servants etc... Now what makes you say they did not follow Islam as their religion since being righteous, upright, prefect is following the right path o.e monotheism which is the religion of ISLAM...

Christians say there is no Islam in the bible nor is Judaism found in the Tanack shall we conclude Moses and his people did not have a religion? 

Do Christians live up to what Jesus said?

If a man uses physical force on  a woman I.e tries to rape her,  is her husband allowed to fight the man? or should he stand and pray without getting into type of violence. this is supposed to be the teaching of a true christian. Christians claim, Jesus never fought anyone rather he used love and said forgive those who persecute you  and pray for them.

listen, I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. (Luke 6:27-28)

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Just out of curiosity are Christians allowed to defend their family by beating or fighting the assailant, If so where did Jesus during his ministry prescribe self defence? you think you can then the above teaching is a lie and cannot be literal! 

We know what the Old Testament says about defending ones rights and protecting the family, but since Christians don't follow the laws or rules of the Old Testament or as they like to say the old covenant where does Jesus teach self defence  and family protection by physical action?

Ask yourself can you really watch your wife or daughter get raped in front of you, and all you can do is pray for the man!. when in reality you can do something about it. Can such practice be applied in this day and age. Which mad man would follow such a teaching.

It gets worse Jesus of the Bible goes as far as saying if one slaps you on one cheek turn the other?

If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. (Luke 6:29)

Seriously! How many Christians would turn their other cheek? Do you see the problem the gospels writers have created. They are pretending to created this fantasy dream land where every Christians is supposed to look like the innocent loving caring forgiving human! Whereas in reality it's a lie. No Christians in the planet practice such a commandment.. And the most ironic part is Jesus himself did not practice this. Remember when the official slapped him on the cheek did he turn the Other? NOOO rather he said why was he slapped :

When Jesus said this, one of the officials nearby slapped him in the face. “Is this the way you answer the high priest?” he demanded.

“If I said something wrong,” Jesus replied, “testify as to what is wrong. But if I spoke the truth, why did you strike me?” (John 18:22-23)

Who do you blame for such lies, Who's the route of the Problem? We can conclude the authors are  to be blamed who the route of the problem