Thursday, 5 October 2017

The very text you tried defending has exposed you! (how embarrassing)




I came across this pathetic article from answering Islam korede’s favorite website. This really made me laugh, I was shocked how ignorant scam shamoun and his clan were of the Hebrew language. Let us read a segment from the article before we expose the writers ignorance.

The Claim that the Bible is Corrupt because of Numerical Discrepancies

There are some Muslims who attempt to discredit the Bible on the basis of contradiction of numbers. They are quick to argue that if the Holy Bible is truly God's Word, then it would contain no numerical errors because God is perfect. It is true: God is perfect. However, man is not. And though it was God who revealed the Scriptures in perfect fashion, it was the hand of man that copied the manuscripts from one generation to the next. And since man is imperfect, there are bound to be mistakes in his work. We call these mistakes copyist errors because they most likely were made during the laborious and tedious task of duplicating the scriptures for wider distribution. An example of this type of error are the following verses taken from the King James version of the Bible:

And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven hundred horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen. (II Samuel 8:4)

And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven thousand horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen. (I Chronicles 18:4)

It is clear that the first verse speaks of 700 horsemen, and the other 7000 horsemen -- a difference of 6300. Such errors in the Old Testament can be found in other passages and are attributed to the fact that many of the Hebrew characters of numbers closely resembled one another. Thus it was easy to mistake one number for another during the process of copying. It was also easy to misplace a zero that could account for the difference between 7000 and 700. These errors are believed to have been nonexistent in the original scriptures.

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Now that  you’ve read the article let me expose the sheer ignorance of the writer. Let’s start off with the title of the article, “The Claim that the Bible is Corrupt because of Numerical Discrepancies”. The writer is saying “Muslims claim the Bible is corrupt” yet he himself made the same claim?

though it was God who revealed the Scriptures in perfect fashion, it was the hand of man that copied the manuscripts from one generation to the next. And since man is imperfect, there are bound to be mistakes in his work. We call these mistakes copyist errors because they most likely were made during the laborious and tedious task of duplicating the scriptures for wider distribution.”

How ironic, the writer contradicted himself. Let’s move on, the writer did not hesitate to admit that there are discrepancies throughout the Bible.

Such errors in the Old Testament can be found in other passages

Here is where it gets interesting. The writer “claims” that the “Hebrew characters of numbers closely resembled one another”. According to the writer this is the reason such a discrepancy was made he goes to to say “Thus it was easy to mistake one number for another during the process of copying. It was also easy to misplace a zero that could account for the difference between 7000 and 700.”

Did you catch the joke? “Hebrew characters of numbers closely resembled one another” seriously? Well sorry to inform you sir you are wrong. The Hebrew Bible does not use numbers it uses letters instead, the letters resembling numbers are not the same as we shall see.


If we are to compare the Hebrew of both texts, then we can see a striking difference in spelling and pronunciation.

Seven hundred horsemen (2 Samuel 8:4)
וּשְׁבַע־ מֵאוֹת֙ פָּרָשִׁ֔ים (ū-šə-ḇa‘- mê-’ō-wṯ pā-rā-šîm,)

Compare to

 Seven thousand horsemen (1 Chronicles 18:4)
 וְשִׁבְעַ֤ת אֲלָפִים֙ פָּֽרָשִׁ֔ים  (wə-šiḇ-‘aṯ  ’ă-lā-p̄îm pā-rā-šîm,)

There is no way the scribes could of made an error whist writing the numbers in words.  (thousand ’ă-lā-p̄îm and Hundred mê-’ō-wṯ). the writer is ignorant of the Hebrew language or else he wouldn’t of humiliated himself by claiming the Hebrew Bible had numbers so similar the scribes may have made mistake? I'm shocked how he thought he could get away making such a bogus claim

It was also easy to misplace a zero that could account for the difference between 7000 and 700.”

This only shows and proves, that the Bible has really been corrupted, tampered with. Even the writer who thought he could answer this stupendous problem lied to convince his readers, Yet his lies got exposed.


Another injury to answering Islam's shabby article

The authors of the article tried to make a comparison and mockery of Surah 38:21-25. The Story in which Dawud (As) had two visitors enter his palace by climbing over the wall. The authors tried to compare the story from the Quran with the "parable" found in 2 Samuel 12:1-14.

Firstly, the authors argument based on biblical narrations cannot be accepted, since the Bible itself has been proven to be unhistorical leading many  not to believe its authenticity. Secondly the Bible verse which the authors use to base their argument has no effect on Muslims since the earliest fragments of the Tanack known as the DSS specifically 1 &2 Samuel have variant readings and that story is incomplete with much of it's text missing. The author claims Nathan spoke a "Parable" to king David as found in verse 1, however this is missing from the DSS manuscript. The verse starting from verse 4, 1-3 are missing.  Verse 4 finishes at verse 5 making verses 6-7 absent. Verse 8 finishes at verse 9 making 10, 11, 12 absent.  The story in the Bible makes no mention of two men climbing over the wall which terrified Dawud (As), nor does the Bible say the two men were brothers as found in the Quran.  The two stories have no relation whatsoever, in fact the Biblical story is more dubious since no early fragments can confirm the missing parts of the story found in the Masoretic.


Finally, as for the saying " shoot oneself in the foot." that’s exactly what the author did to himself. He has proven that the Masoretic text which he depended on is not authentic and throughout time rabbis have filled the missing gaps themselves. Another reason to dismiss the Bible as the word of God

Another laughable matter
answering Islam article tried to make a comparison between Surah 2:249 and Judges 7:4-5. the story of Gideon and his men drinking water from the river. well, little did he know that story is not found in the DSS Bible. the ancient documents don't speak of such an event.
Thus, we can rule out of any such plagiarism and definitely conclude the Bible once again added a story unknown to those prior to the 1st century BC
Case closed!



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