Friday, 23 September 2016

Naked Dilemma

Christian Dilemma!!!!  ( Naked on the cross )




Christians claim Jesus was crucified, yet they hide the condemned/culprits where crucified NAKED!!!!

If u say your saviour Jesus was crucified then you have to agree he was also naked to prove it historically ? But no Christians will agree Jesus was NAKED

But we read from the bible and other accounts he was NAKED?
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Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout. (John 19:23)


Pulpit Commentary 

 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part. This shows that a quaternion of soldiers, and not the "whole band," had been told off for the infernal deed. Pilate knew now that there was no need of an army to keep the people from popular insurrection. The rest of the garrison were not far off, should they be required; moreover, the servants of the high priest were ready to act on an emergency; but John adds, And also the coat (the χιτών, the לְבּושׁ); the long vesture which clothed his whole person, reaching from the neck to the feet, and which, when removed, left the sacred body naked. 

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Gills Exposition entire bible commentary

Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus,.... The crucifixion of Christ was at the request and solicitation of the Jews, was ordered by the Roman governor, and performed by the Roman soldiers; the sinful men into whose hands Christ was to be delivered: 

took his garments; which they had stripped his body of, crucifying him naked; as what properly belonged to them, it being usual then, as now, for executioners to have the clothes of the persons they put to death; these were his inner garments: 


We read from the above bible verse and commentary Jesus was STRIPPED NAKED ON THE CROSS!!!
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Below a few historical evidences showing crucifixion was done NAKED.




historical commentary says, “The replacement of Jesus’ own clothes for the walk to Golgotha was probably a concession to Jewish scruples about public nakedness (Jub. 3:30–31; cf. Gen 9:20–27). Crucifixion was normally naked, and in v. 35 Jesus’ clothes will again have been removed; m. Sanh. 6:3 specifies that the clothes should be removed only at the place of execution, not on the way there.”


commentary on the details of the life of Christ relays, “Even though Jesus has been flogged, Mark/Matt have Jesus dressed again before he sets out to the place of crucifixion. Normally the criminal, carrying the lateral beam of the cross behind his neck with his arms fastened to it, would go naked to the place of crucifixion, being scourged as he went. We know this from passing references in Dionysius of Halicarnassus (Roman Antiquities 7.69.2) and Valerius Maximus (Facta 1.7.4). Indeed, Josephus (Ant. 19.4.5; #270) reports that even Roman nobles involved in the assassination of Gaius Caligula had their clothes removed before being taken to the place of execution. -


Another commentator says, “To distribute the garments of Christ among the soldiers, the clothes had to be removed from Christ. Thus, Christ was crucified naked. The suffering was great at the crucifixion but so was the shame. No artist dares to picture Christ as naked—they put a loin cloth around Him for modesty. But Scripture indicates He was naked.”

Another says, “[T]he normal undergarment was either a tunic or a loincloth, and Jesus’ tunic was taken from him (v. 23; Brown 1970:902), it is perhaps more likely he was naked. Early Christian tradition is divided on the subject (cf. Brown 1994:2:953).”


Crucifixion in Smiths Bible Dictionary  

Crucifixion was used among the Egyptians, Ge 40:19 the Carthaginians, the Persians, Es 7:10 the Assyrians, Scythains, Indians, Germans, and from the earliest times among the Greeks and Romans. Whether this mode of execution was known to the ancient Jews is a matter of dispute. Probably the Jews borrowed it from the Romans. It was unanimously considered the most horrible form of death. Among the Romans the degradation was also a part of the infliction, and the punishment if applied to freemen was only used in the case of the vilest criminals. The one to be crucified was stripped naked of all his clothes, and then followed the most awful moment of all........etc..

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Summary and Conclusion

Right now we have a very big dilemma to deal with...

( 1 ) If Christians really believe this man they call saviour was crucified and it's historically proven, then they have to accept historically guilty ones where crucified NAKED.

( 2 ) if Christians say Jesus wasn't naked even though their scriptures testify to it as found john 19:23. Then point 1 has to be dismissed, which means the crucifixion found in John was not historically accurate. Let's bear in mind mark and Matthew made up a lie to avoid embarrassment that Jesus had a loin covering his privates when it's false historically one is NAKED AND HUMILIATED!!!

Can you imagine your saviour hanging strip naked nothing on and everyone including the Mary's watching this man ! Even the thought of it makes you feel awkward.  

Take your pick naked or not.

Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

 

took his garments; which they had stripped his body of, crucifying him naked; as what properly belonged to them, it being usual then, as now, for executioners to have the clothes of the persons they put to death; these were his inner garments:

 

Pulpit Commentary

 

the long vesture which clothed his whole person, reaching from the neck to the feet, and which, when removed, left the sacred body naked.

 

Benson Commentary

 

That is, all this was done agreeably to an ancient prophecy, wherein these circumstances of the Messiah’s sufferings were mentioned, to show that he was to be crucified naked;

 

MacLaren's Expositions

 

But the thing that most concerns us here is that Jesus submitted to that extremity of shame and humiliation, and hung there naked for all these hours, gazed on

 

 J. Vernon McGee (Thru the Bible) says:

 

He was crucified naked. It is difficult for us in this age of nudity and pornography to comprehend the great humiliation He suffered by hanging nude on the cross. They had taken His garments and gambled for ownership. My friend, He went through it all, crucified naked, that you might be clothed with the righteousness of Christ, and so be able to stand before God throughout the endless ages of eternity.









1 comment:

  1. Wait, this page is just from someone who take his joy in blaspheming, I don't think it calls for a real debate, making Jesus look ridiculous, becaure of the hatred for him.
    If we consider things seriously, except the fact that people like to spread wrong and horrible things, it has no historicity, no proof. Some crucifixion were conducted naked, that's true, but not all of them. Whoever says that is an ignorant or a liar, because it's wrong.

    If someone says "All crucified people were naked", it only takes knowledge about this period and a brain, to know that is untrue, and that's the main point. If no all crucifixions were naked, why, because of your hatred feelings, do you want that Jesus to be naked without any doubt?

    That's insane. And that's the reason why I call it hatred.
    Just hainous speech, and propaganda. Nobody can say "things were this way, I know it with certainty", if you don't have a proof it was.

    " The historian Josephus, a (JEWISH) general in command of the Jewish forces of Galilee, is the best literary source for the practice of crucifixion in Palestine during the Roman period". Refer to his writings. People wore loincloths under their clothes, and Jesus did. In the Gospel, they describe how they shared his clothes, but nobody shared his loincloth. Why? The only possible answer is: because he kept it. To be only with loincloth was called "nude", and you need to be aware that several words describe nudity (according to the "level", with or without a loincloth) in Greek, Latin and Hebrew.

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